Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Hello, everybody. Welcome to another episode of youf're the cure. I'm Dr. Ben Edwards. We've got a show today.
I can already tell it's going to be an amazing show. Abraham John, a repeat guest. He's actually been on twice before, but it's been a little while. It was July, March and July of 2020 when I had Abraham. Come on. Had a friend of mine, Colin Seal, introduce me to Abraham. Sent me about 10 of his books and I just devoured them. It really opened my mind to some deeper things of the kingdom.
And then just recently, a book popped in to my inbox, an email. I got that with this book right here, actually. Oh, too close to the camera. What happened to God?
And it caught my attention and boy, howdy, Abraham's going to come and talk on this thing. But before we bring Abraham on, I just want to say, guys, especially for new listeners, you know, yes, I'm a physician. I'm a doctor, trained as a medical doctor, family practitioner, and after 10 years of that, learned that pharmaceuticals were just treating symptoms. I didn't know that, but. And it took me a good while to wrestle through that. That medical school didn't teach me all there was to know. And as I learned more integrative functional medicine, nutrition supplements, integrative modalities like ozone and ultraviolet blood irradiation and parasite protocols and heavy metals and toxins and detoxes and all these things. High dose vitamin C, IV on some really cool things.
That was great. And it was a different way to do things and people benefited from that. We just had a testimony published recently. Stage 3 Kidney disease reversed. Hypertension reversed. High cholesterol reversed just from diet changes. So changing what goes in our mouth after absolutely plays a huge part in how our cells function. No doubt about it. Sitting all day long, no doubt about it. Not beneficial to us being under artificial light like I am right now all day long. Blue light going into your optic nerve at night on your screens and your, your phones and your TV screens and your iPads and tablets. That's blue light that's not as beneficial, has some negative effects. Sunshine, the full spectrum of light that God intended, much, much healthier.
So there is the stewardship component that we talk about. Nutrition, hydration, movement and peace. It is awesome. But after 10 years of really focusing on that and the peace pillar was always there.
But after 10 years when the Lord said, you're out of order, you need to flip it. And it was clear. I mean, 10 years of walking with patients in the natural holistic Realm. It was absolutely clear that chronic stress was killing people. And chronic stress isn't resolved by changing all your circumstances. That's impossible.
So it was the, the goggles were wearing the lenses that were seeing our circumstances through. It was so clear. That was the issue. We're not seeing clearly.
And as we started to, as I personally and my staff and we started ask seeking the kingdom, that's what we started and we had been. But now we're really focused. We are getting honed in, abiding in, in the vine, trying to stay connected every day, all day long, with every patient, with every thought, with every circumstance in my life.
And then the science comes along and confirms every single thing we're learning from the word. Your thoughts impact the water that your DNA floats in changes the shape of your DNA. Thoughts rooted in fear and anger and frustration. Unforgiveness changes your DNA structure. Your mitochondria that we talk about, absolutely impacted. It's not designed. The mitochondria is not designed to burn high fructose corn syrup and cottonseed oil. It will gunk up your carburetor and cause inflammation and cause Alzheimer's and stroke and heart attack and all these killers.
So not denying that at all. But now we also know this carburetor, the efficiency of its ability to take fuel and make energy and take fuel and during the energy production process also makes exhaust or free radicals inflammation. That efficiency of burning fuel and oxygen for energy is a 100% impacted by your thinking. So guys, that's the connection here. Your carburetor can take all the organic food and the perfect filtered water and the perfect sunshine and exercise and deep breathing techniques and all the things in the natural stewardship realm can take all that and still not be functioning optimally.
And as I've talked about many times, my mentor Roby Mitchell died early and he was Dr. Fit, Mr. Fit of America. And he did everything perfect in the natural realm. But the thinking disrupts the carburetor function, disrupts our cells, disrupts our DNA. So we've got to get to the thinking.
Just had an email this morning.
Imagine that it coincides with what I'm about to read from the book. And I normally don't do this. Guys, I'm going to read about three pages. So this is a long introduction. Then we'll bring Abraham in. But first, this. I get a daily email called Infinite Supply from the School of Christ as Chip Brogdon. He's been on the podcast before. He's a big kingdom teacher. But the name, the title on this email day is Radical Repentance, and he used verse John 3:12. If I have told you earthly things and you do not believe, how will you believe if I tell you of heavenly things? The commentary he goes on to say. Chip goes on to say here, the path of progress, of spiritual maturity, hinges upon our willingness to let go of the old ways and embrace the new ways, to rise above the lower order of things and walk in a higher order, a heavenly way, a spiritual way, as opposed to the earthly, natural, carnal way that we are so used to walking. Repentance is a continual process of agreeing with what God shows us about ourselves and then making the necessary adjustments. I would put in parentheses what God also shows us about Himself.
He goes on to say, the Holy Spirit is intent upon making radical adjustments to create in us a willingness to to look at things differently. My commentary on that is look with the eyes of our heart, an eagerness to begin seeing things as God sees Him, regardless of how uncomfortable that may be, to value the things that he values and let go of lesser things, to align ourselves with his mind and will for all things to leave our ground altogether and come onto his ground regardless of the consequences. That was Chip Brogdon's email this morning.
Correlate that to what I'm about to read from the book Abraham, John's book what Happened to God? The Great reconstruct from page 42.
Paul had to go through this reconstruct before Jesus could use him as his apostle. Prior to his conversion, Paul thought he was serving God with vigor, passion and determination, trying to destroy something which God gave birth to His Ecclesia.
How many people today believe they are serving God with passion and zeal, but are millions of miles off from God's true intent and plan? I was one of them.
Every new season requires a reconstruct of our mindset and theology.
What I mean by theology is our current understanding and the knowledge we have of of God.
God can usher in a new season on the earth only to the extent we allow him to reconstruct our mindset. He can work only through those who are willing to go through this process.
God is willing always.
God is always willing to move and do his part. Most of the time though, he can't find enough people willing to prepare the way of the Lord.
That is why the first thing Jesus required from us for his kingdom to manifest is to repent. In quotation marks, Abraham put quotes around that to repent means changing the way we think.
Reconstructing a new way of thinking in our brain which is not easy to recreate everything in us will fight and scream against anything that is new. Skipping two paragraphs down, Abraham goes on to say, whenever a major change happened on earth or the way people thought, first they resisted and fought against it. History proves that if the world needs to become full of righteousness, then the people who are righteous need to rise up and build it. If the earth needs to be filled with the glory of God, then the people who carry the glory must release it. As long as we remain inactive empathetic, the world will continue to go in the wrong direction.
We preach about Paul and what happened to him, but without knowing, the majority of us are doing the same thing that Paul did, trying to kill something that God is giving birth to. In this season, they're more concerned about preserving their traditions than ushering in the new season. What happened to Paul was what was operating from an old paradigm. What is an old paradigm? An old paradigm is a mindset or an operating system that was formed by what God did in past seasons.
He was sincere and committed. As many would say today, he was on fire for God, meaning he was willing to do anything and go to any extent. However, he was misguided and missed the mark, all because he didn't recognize what God was doing at that moment. When we operate from an old paradigm based on what God did in a past season, we fall into the category of the old Paul.
We might think we are serving God with vigor and determination, but unfortunately we will be fighting against what God wants to do or is doing on the earth right now. Skipping a couple more paragraphs and I'm done.
The reason Jesus said to repent first is because to God human minds which are corrupted and flawed by sin, or I'd say separation from the truth and our thinking are the only hindrances to his kingdom and will being manifest on the earth. Let me repeat that the reason Jesus said to repent first change our mind, change our thinking, go beyond our old thinking is because to God human minds which are corrupted and flawed by sin are the only hindrance to his kingdom and will being manifest on the earth. He did not say go and fight Satan first or our mother in law's.
That's Abraham's words, not mine. Lisa Human hearts and minds programmed by religion are the greatest hindrance to God and He wants to and what he wants to do on the earth. If we don't change our minds in the way we think, the kingdom of God cannot manifest on the earth. This book is intended to remove that hindrance from each one of us so that God can have his way in and through us.
Now, that may have offended some people. And Abraham, John, what I've learned on my journey is the truth oftentimes does offend before. It sets us free and makes us free. So I'm going to ask the listeners to have a humble, open heart and to consider that some of our thinking is from an old operating system that came in and Abraham's going to talk about, I think we get, we got programmed with malware.
We need to be deconstruct that old thing and reconstruct. We got to be rebooted back to the original intent of God. Abraham, John, welcome to the program. Thank you for being with us and for sitting through my my reading of your book. I loved your book. Obviously I want you to talk about it today. But this is a, I mean you said it before I hit record. You were a little scared about releasing this book. A little nervous maybe not scared is not the right word and you kind of did it secretly. So maybe tell us about that journey to writing this book or just any comments that you have from my open comment, opening statements.
[00:12:28] Speaker B: Thank you. Well, I'm so excited to be here. Thank you for emailing me back and reconnecting and I thank God for this opportunity for us to come back and continue what God has started few years ago. And thank you for what you're doing. You are a treasure in God's kingdom, my brother. I want to tell you, encourage you to continue what God has started because that's only a beginning. You just started this journey that God has planned and waiting for people to step into the practice, the program, the knowledge that you're imparting to people regarding their health, it is very essential.
And I thank God for what he's doing through you because you are, what you're doing is an integral part of God's kingdom and part of what he is doing on the earth today.
So please keep going. We are with you, congratulate you and thank you for having me back on the podcast. I am blessed to be here. Like, I'm like where do I start? You know, there is so much to to talk about but in the introduction couple of things stood out to me that the Holy Spirit highlighted. I want to welcome all our viewers, listeners. Thank you for watching. I promise you this is going to change your life. This is going to impact your life for all eternity.
And some of the things that you read and also said in introduction and also you read from Somebody's email that came in was something about seeing and also everything originate in the thought realm first.
And also then you came to repentance. You know, let's talk about that word repentance for it for a minute here because that's one of the most misunderstood words in Christendom. Actually the whole Bible, maybe Bible is the most misinterpreted book in the whole world and God is the most misunderstood person in the whole universe. So you asked me, how did I come to this place of writing that book. It didn't start in a day. It's been a journey of 50 years trying to uncover, unlock, and also to discover why things are the way they are. And also about my own personal journey with God. It was not an one day event, always a progression. Revelation is progressive. So we know mankind fell. Adam and Eve fell, sinned, disobeyed, and God promised salvation, redemption, you know, through his son. The seed of the woman will come and crushed the head of the serpent.
And humanity waited for 4,000 years, Dr. Ben, 4,000 years. And finally he was born of the virgin, arrived on the earth, the Messiah, Jesus Christ, our Savior, our king and our Lord. And he also has to wait 30 years to start his kingdom assignment for which his father has sent.
So finally the day came at age 30, baptized of John, filled with the Holy Spirit, tested in the wilderness for 40 days.
And then the Father said, now is the moment to go and release the message that humanity needs. And what did he say? Matthew 4, 17. The Bible says from that day, day onward, Jesus began to preach and say repent.
So the first word, imagine the weight and the importance of that word, the first word coming out of the mouth of God in the process of salvation, in the process of restoration of all things, in the process of redeeming, restoring us back to him and to his kingdom. The first word was repent.
And I thought I knew what that word meant. I thought repentance meant confess your sin.
So I started confessing my sins, my father's sins, my mother's sins, like I read in the book, my mother in law sins, everybody sins that I can think of, you know, and I was not making any progress.
And I was like, what is there any hidden sin or unknown sin? You know, there's oh my gosh, Dr. Ben. I went on to this, this journey of unending repentance of things. I thought repentance was confess your sins. So I repented every day. I repented for known sins, unknown sins since I committed my thoughts and this and that.
See If Jesus meant by repentance, confess your sins, he would have said that word. He would have said, confess your sins, guys, everything's going to be okay.
But that's not the word that he used. He used the word repentance.
English is a second language to me. You know, you grew up speaking English, that's your mother tongue.
For me, English was a gift given to me by God because he said he, you need this for your future.
So anytime you read a word with the re prefix, it means something, right?
Re means doing something again or go back. You know, we used to have this tape cassette player, rewind, you know, means go back, renew our. We renew our driver's license, our passports, our permits, and this and that. We rebuild things or restore something or redeem. Anytime you see that I re prefix, that means you are doing something again.
Wow. That itself is a shift in the mindset of people watching this. Repentance means God wants you to go back and do something again.
That's where it starts. Confessing sins or feeling bad for what you did.
It's only part of repentance, but not the whole concept of repentance. Confessing sins is good. We have to confess our sins. That's the Bible says.
But repentance is much bigger because like you said, Dr. Ben thought something happened to the way we think, that it was the first consequence of disobedience of Adam and Eve.
We thought as soon as God, as soon as Adam and Eve, Eve ate from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, they got separated from God, they lost heaven, they lost salvation.
Now they are going to go to hell. But that's not what the Bible says. I always refer back to the Bible. Not what you heard, not what you used to hearing or grew up hearing.
I promise I do not write or preach or teach anything. If I cannot support with two verses from the Bible. That's the guarantee I give to people. I don't borrow from somebody's writing. This person said this, this, this person said that, no, if I cannot establish what I teach, what I write, at least by two witnesses from the Bible, I will not publicly preach or teach or write about it.
So I went back. Why did Jesus say? What does he want us to go back and do again?
So that's My journey began, Dr. Ben. I went to Genesis, chapter three.
What happened? What originally happened? We heard Adam and Eve sinned, disobeyed.
Their relationship with God was broken. But that's not completely true because God came down the same day Adam and Eve disobeyed sinned. God Almighty came down to the garden looking for them, having a conversation with them. That means the relationship was not completely broken. Because if they're completely broken, there will be silence.
There was no silence from God's side.
God came down looking, seeking Adam and calling him Adam. Where are you? I'm going somewhere with this. Because the first verse that we read from Genesis chapter three, three, word seven, the first consequence of Adam and Eve, disobedience or sin, was then the eyes of both of them were opened.
That is the first consequence of this and horrible thing they committed. Disobedience, sin, whatever you want to call it. The first reaction, first consequence is the eyes of both of them were open. What is it talking about? What eyes were talking about? Were they blind before? No, they were not blind before.
You're talking about what we understand in English is very limited.
A new mental perception was opened inside them.
A mental perception. This is a sight. Like you were saying in the introduction, seeing, they lost the ability to see themselves as God saw them as a result of sin. Listen to me, people of God.
God is speaking here. The Holy Spirit is speaking. The first consequence of sin is we lost the ability to see ourselves as God sees us.
Instead, a different mental perception awareness was opened inside us and we lost the ability to see God for who he is.
Our perception of God changed and our perception of ourselves changed. That is the consequence of sin, and that's what sin means. From that moment on, whatever mankind did, do you know what happened to them?
They missed the mark.
Since that perception changed in them, whatever they tried, sin means. Hamartia in Greek means miss the mark. You try, you try, you try. How many people that comes to you, Dr. Ben?
They have good intentions. They do everything right. Like you were talking about somebody, your mentor.
People are trying to figure out, what am I supposed to do?
That will be the first question they might ask you. Doctor, I have the symptom, you know, I'm. I'm not feeling well in this part of my body. What am I doing wrong or what am I supposed to do to fix this?
That is the wrong starting point. That's the wrong question. You know, as you know, because it started not because of you did something wrong or right. We had to go back to the original root, the cause, where it started. The every trouble that we face physically, in our body, emotionally, spiritually, in this world, every trouble, every problem, every calamity, every war, every division, every sickness, disease started right here in that verse that I just read, Genesis, chapter three, verse seven.
Their eyes, both of them were opened.
And what is the result? What they saw, they knew that they were naked.
So in English, this is very limited words in Hebrew test.
It means totally different thing, totally different concept. Because God's word are spirit. There are no letter that we see written or printed in a paper.
We read it as letter, written, printed on a paper. But God's word is spirit and they are life.
So when it says naked, it is not talking about their physical nakedness.
It is talking about how they felt about themselves.
They felt there is something wrong with them.
Something is missing. I don't feel good about myself.
That is nakedness. Feeling shame.
They felt ashamed.
What is that?
There is something wrong with me so that people and God will not accept me the way I am.
That is the root. That is the result of that mental perception that went wrong. Our processes, our processor got corrupted. That malware was down. That virus came into us, Dr. Ben, from another kingdom, from another realm, from demonic entity.
This virus came into us, corrupted our perception of ourselves.
Mankind lost the ability to see themselves as God sees them.
So let's going back when Adam and Eve sinned, God did not change his perception about Adam and Eve.
God still loved them, cared for them. That's why he came looking for them.
God's perception did not change, change about Adam and Eve or mankind.
Our perception of God changed for who he is.
Then we began to come up with all sorts of ideas and religion and rituals and this and that. We had to look like this. We had to look this direction when we pray.
We had to go to that mountain. We have to go to this mountain. We have to go, dude, this, that. All this came as a result of this. I can just go on and on and on. But that is the root of the issue.
And that is the reason Jesus said repent means go back and fix what happened the way you see yourself, the way you see God.
Fix that.
Because why? The kingdom of heaven is coming back to earth.
Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is near or at hand. Matthew 4:17.
So if we need to understand anything that Jesus preached or taught, we have to understand the original blueprint that God gave to us, which is Genesis 1, 2 and 3. Dr. Ben, this is one of the revolutionary thing I ever understood. Everything Jesus preached and taught, every parable, he took it from Genesis 1, 2 and 3, everything.
Jesus did not come to establish a new doctrine, church, like we say, a new denomination, none of those things. He came to restore us, restore what Adam lost, what Adam messed up.
And he wants Us to go back.
Repent means go back and do something.
Repair what happened to our mind, our soul, the way we think about ourself.
Like, like you say, every sickness, every disease starts in the thought realm first. Am I right?
[00:30:03] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:30:03] Speaker B: That's where it starts.
[00:30:05] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:30:06] Speaker B: And what is that? Thought realm means the way they see themselves. Something happened to this precious people, but the root is in Genesis.
On top of that, people go through horrendous stuff in childhood that many people are not open to talk about.
You know, they think because the shame, because they feel like people may not accept or love me if I really open up, if I really be honest about what happened to me or what I did.
People believe the shame because that's where it came from. Genesis, chapter three, verse seven. So they hide and they carry this poison inside them and that poisonous toxic thoughts manifest as different diseases and sicknesses, eats their organs and different members of their body.
That's where it lies. So I'm so excited when I heard you got said to flip everything out the order of what you've been doing. Start with peace.
That peace is when you repent. What happens? You receive.
You begin to see yourself as God sees you. Dear child of God, my brother, my sister who is watching. If you repented, how do you know if you repented? If you repented, you see yourself as God sees you, as his beloved child, his son, his daughter. That's your identity.
That is the purpose of repentance. The purpose of repentance is to cleanse us from that malware, that virus that corrupted our processing. I'm talking the technological terms here. That corruption that came into our psyche, the human psyche, psychology, that's mind.
That's where the problem started because that's where I wrote repentance means to change the way you think.
That is more. How do we change it? Practically that's what I was sharing from Genesis, chapter three, verse seven.
My brother.
This is something else. I can just go. But I know this is a podcast. This is not a preaching.
[00:32:45] Speaker A: No, you preach, brother.
I'm a hundred percent tracking. If you dig, dig deep, get to the root. I mean that's what people come to our clinic, they want to get to the root of it. My pharmaceuticals just treating a symptom, it's just masking it, just covering it up. I don't want that. I want to get to the root.
And in this now 13 year journey that we're still on, but as we just continue to go down this narrow path and asking and seeking the kingdom and asking and asking and repenting and changing our mind and keep looking, keep seeking, keep knocking.
God keeps revealing more and more of his, I would say his original intent.
But it gets right down to what you just said. We don't see ourself clearly and we don't see God clearly. We start making all these different things, constructions of God. I think it's in this book you talk about God's been misrepresented, misunderstood, misrepresented. If he's been misunderstood and misrepresented, how can we trust Him?
So maybe speak to, you know, before the malware came in, why did God, what was he? Why did he create the earth? Why did he create mankind in the earth? What was the purpose? What's the point of this whole thing?
If, you know, some people, including myself, were taught a gospel of salvation? Get to heaven, get to heaven, get to heaven. And if that was the purpose, you know, it just makes sense. Why don't you just put us straight into heaven? If that's the ultimate goal, what's the point of all this down here on the earth?
So.
[00:34:29] Speaker B: In the first place, why would he send us here to earth?
Because we were all in him in all eternity, you know, if he wanted us in heaven, singing to him 24 7, hey, just keep us there, why would he.
[00:34:46] Speaker A: I want to say, and Abraham's about to give an answer here and I just want to tell folks that God will, will show us these things because sometimes we'll just think, well, we don't know. We don't, we can't know all the things of God.
His ways are higher than our ways. So we just can't know the answer to some of these questions. Well, there's some truth in that. But also he's eager to reveal Himself. And if we don't ask and don't listen and receive truth, then we're vulnerable. We stay at this immature level, drinking milk, and we're vulnerable to the enemy's lies where we don't see God clearly, can't trust Him. And then we got to do it ourself, self preserve, self protect, grab from that knowledge of good and evil, and we get into all this trouble.
So when there are these big deeper questions, ask and, and seek and knock. And so this kind of question of, well, what was God even thinking in the first place? What was the point? What did he put us here? Is there an answer in scripture?
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[00:37:29] Speaker B: Oh my goodness. That's where we need to start.
Because God starts everything with purpose. Because every time God creates something, he defines the creation's purpose. That's where it started for me, this journey. Dr. Ben, when you asked me how it all began because I grew up, you know, in religion, in church. I went to church four times a week where I heard God created mankind to worship him.
So I went on a journey.
I need to find out where did God say God created humans to worship him.
So I went to the book of creation, which is Genesis. And they told me worship meant singing.
And that is so much to explain about that. In our culture that I grew up in, worship meant fast. If you can sing fast and clap your hands, that is worship. Then he came to the Western culture, slow the slower the music and the song is that is worship. So it's like a I went through this contradiction of my Lord worlds and ideas and concepts. So finally, thank God, I decided to go to the Bible. I encourage our viewers, please don't go because somebody else said something.
Go back to the source, to the root. Whether it is sickness or disease or ideas, go back to the roots. And Bible, like I said, is one of the most misunderstood book in the Bible because there's a system that needed to apply to understand the Bible. Because you can just open up and take one word from the Bible and then just go and try to apply it. That's not the way to do it. You have to understand certain concepts and principles. Because Bible is not written in one, two, three steps. Okay, you do this one, two, three, you get born again. Then three, four, five, you get silent, so you get saved. You don't see that in the Bible because the way God designed you, the path and the relationship that he wants to have with you is unique.
Religion create copies, Religion produces copies.
Religion says you do 1, 2, 3.
But kingdom creates originals.
The relationship that you have with your heavenly Father, nobody else have that in this whole universe.
My God, Dr. Ben, I feel the glory of God. The relationship that I cannot impose my relationship with my heavenly Father on anybody.
That is my personal walk, my intimacy, the level of connection that I have that it took me this many years.
Nobody else can have that because it's unique. What I went through, what I experienced, what I heard, what I felt, what I understood.
Nobody else can have that same experience.
So religion came in and said, made everybody do the same thing. Everybody look and dress the same thing. That is a religion kingdom. That's why Jesus said repent means to put the kingdom software inside you.
The way God wants us to think about ourselves and God. The root cause of all the problems we see on this earth earth today is wrong. Theology is rooted on the wrong perception of God and the wrong perception of our self.
So why did God created this earth and humans?
Every time he creates something, he defines the purpose. He said what he want that creation to do.
That's how God operates. That's one thing that I want you to understand very clearly, our viewers about God.
Whenever God creates something, he defines its purpose right there and then. He doesn't wait 2,000 years to tell what that creation supposed to be doing. No, the moment he creates, he tells that creation. What is he expecting that creation to do? He created the fish, he put them in the water, he created the birds and said let them fly in the air.
And he defines the purpose. The second thing to understand about God is every creation belongs to a specific place.
Every creation has a specific purpose.
And then he takes what he created and put them in a specific place. That's why we read in the Bible, fish of the sea, stars of the sky, birds of the air, lilies of the field.
Every time God mentions something, he specifies where that creation belongs.
And when he talks about us sons of the kingdom, we supposed to be living in God's kingdom.
So when God created humans, what did he tell us to do? Genesis 1:26 is our purpose statement.
You don't need to go and invent another purpose statement.
Your purpose is already engraved by our God, our Father, our Creator. In his word. In Genesis 1:26, he said, Let us create man in our image and in our likeness.
And then he told them what to do. Let them.
Let them have dominion over the fish, of the sea, birds of the air, over the cattle, over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.
Dominion is our purpose. What is dominion? Dominion is not Dominic domination.
That's what many people misunderstand.
We were not created to dominate other people because humans are not listed in that five things. God told Adam to have dominion. Humans are not included. It's the creation, it's the earth that we need to have dominion.
Dominion means to master and rule over one area of life.
Why are you sitting here doing this podcast where it has wellness? What is that? Because you have dominion over health, kingdom, health care system that you have learned in the last. I don't know, how many years? 20 years? 25. How many years been Dr. Ben, when you started?
[00:44:41] Speaker A: About 25 years. Total med school into now?
[00:44:45] Speaker B: Yeah, 25 years.
What you have now is dominion over that area of health care.
Each of us were created to have dominion over at least one area or aspect of life.
Not over people, over systems, over knowledge, over things that God created on the earth. There is so much to talk about that.
But the reason God created this earth is to establish his kingdom. God is King. Psalms 10:16.
Jesus is King. He was a born king.
God is a king and he has a kingdom. And that kingdom is called the kingdom of heaven. Heaven.
The gospels we read. Jesus preached kingdom of God, Kingdom of heaven more than any other subject. Why? Because he's a king. Every king has a kingdom.
And it is the nature of kings to expand their kingdom to new territories.
That's why we see in the olden days, kingdoms went and colonized other nations. That is not God's kingdom. Human kingdom. Every nation was ruled by a king. There were only kingdoms on the earth 500 years ago.
Every nation was ruled by a king. Where did that come from?
Our God.
In whose image we are created. Likeness and image. He is a king and we are kings.
But we lost rulership.
That's why even New Testament says we are kings and priests in God's kingdom. But how do we rule? We don't rule over people.
We rule over an aspect of life.
And how do you do that? You master a subject or a skill or a gift, something that he puts that passion, that desire that is called your calling.
And you Master, that you have dominion and you establish God's will on earth as it is in heaven. In that area of your expertise, that is your territory, that you rule, that is your dominion over that territory. Or the reach or the influence your mastery, your skill reaches is the territory over which you have jurisdiction where you need to make sure only God's will is done in that territory as it is in heaven.
So by staying connected to the Father, you have connection to heaven, your spirit man support supposed to see what the Father is doing in heaven. Every distraction we see on this earth, the phone, the ads, movies, everything is to keep you distracted and occupied so you have no time to activate your spiritual senses.
Most Christians, I'm telling you, most Christians, they've been to church 30, 40 years, they don't see anything beyond their natural circumstances because from childhood they have been trained to keep them busied by the things of this world.
Like I was staying in a hotel last week and as soon as I came down for breakfast, what do I see?
Oh, who is. Who got drafted for football team for this team? That's what they're showing on the the in the restaurant. I said, is that the thing that I need to be worried about? 7 o' clock in the morning, who got drafted? I'm sorry, I know some of you are die for your teams, you're sold out, you will give your life for it. But I'm telling you something, I'm telling you the truth. You may not want to listen to me, but the reason of those things is to keep you busy, distracted and occupied.
So you're spiritually blind and numb. You can't hear God's voice. You can see what your heavenly Father is doing, but the enemy wants to keep you preoccupied with what he is doing in this world over which he has influence. The enemy and his kingdom.
That's why we have the people get so influenced by the news. What we see in the news, it's not what our heavenly Father is doing. Jesus said, I only see and do what I see my Father is doing.
While he was on the earth, he had access to heaven.
Same did Adam before the fall.
Adam going Back to Genesis 3:7, their eyes were opened and they knew they were naked. What happened to them was they lost the ability to see God and his kingdom and they became self conscious instead of God conscious.
When you become God conscious, which you are, you are the temple. Your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit.
When you become God conscious, who God is and who you are in him, you will see the change happening. In your body, dear child of God.
That's where the healing begins.
Emotional healing. Not only physical healing, emotional healing.
God wants to restore your sight today. That's what he wants to do through this portal forecast. He wants to restore your sight, spiritual sight and your alignment with him. So you'll start to see yourself as God sees you. Who are you? You are his beloved son, daughter, child.
So why God created this earth? Answering the short story.
Lo.
He created this earth to establish his kingdom. That's where Jesus came. He told us to pray. What did he told us to pray? Heavenly father, hallowed be your name. Let your kingdom come. It is coming. Why? Because it's in heaven. Kingdom of heaven wants to come to earth.
And your will be done on earth as it is in heaven means whatever is in heaven.
How things are done in heaven, the way of thinking in heaven, the way of doing whatever is there. He wants to manifest that on the earth now.
And we are the agents.
We are his sons and daughters who are appointed for it.
So that's why when Dr. Ben read that book, God has been waiting for us.
We've been crying, Lord, send this, send that, do that. God said, no, no, no. I am ready to move anytime you are ready.
You are my representatives. You are my ambassadors sent from heaven to earth to represent the king and his kingdom on the earth.
And like I said this many times before, whatever is, is not in heaven.
Maybe this is the statement I want you to write down. Dear people of God, whatever is not in heaven, it is illegal on the earth.
That's what it means. God's will be done on earth as it is in heaven. So if something is not in heaven, it is illegal to be on the earth.
And who has to make sure that?
You and I, God's children, Abba, our Father.
We are the one who supposed to make sure if something is not like our original country that we came from, it shouldn't be on the earth.
That is the purpose of dominion.
When you fulfilled that assignment, your purpose, what happens?
A little bit of earth will be turned into heaven. God's will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Earth will be turned into little more like heaven.
And when we corporately do that, each one of us, the body of Christ, the whole body of Christ. Imagination. Imagine we do this corporately.
Imagine the transformation that can happen in a nation, in a community, in a family, in a person's life.
That is the purpose of everything we do.
In Jesus name, Amen. Amen.
[00:54:02] Speaker A: I don't know, I mean we're Gonna have to do part two, three, four, five and six. I think. Abraham, that was my first question.
And we got about 10 minutes left, so I don't know if I should ask you this next question, but I'm going to go ahead and do it.
And if we need to do part two, we can.
Because I think it's a pretty big question, because people ask me this, why?
Why? If God wanted to advance his kingdom in a new territory called this physical realm, the Earth, he created this physical realm, time and space, he created it.
And He. He's put mankind, his sons, his daughters, into the earth and him in relationship with us.
Why did he choose us, knowing we could choose to listen to the liar, deceiver.
May these eyes be opened. This malware come in.
We start making all these wrong decisions and all this fruit comes out of that. All this destruction, steal, kill and destro.
You know, I'll go to Ephesians where it talks about the manifold wisdom of God, this mystery plan, not known from ages past, but now we know it. And there's multiple parts to this plan Paul talks about, but this one part, the manifold wisdom of God, will be put on display to the principalities and spiritual forces in the heavenly realms by the church, which is his body.
Something in that verse, it seems like to me, he chose us to do this thing.
And I'm not saying it's to show the fallen angels, you were wrong. I was right. Not that part of it, but just God's wisdom that's so multi sided. And he. He chose to create a creature lower than the angels that'll trust him, believe him, love him, see him for who he is, and walk in his ways.
And it's going to show his multi sided wisdom to those fallen angels. Now that's maybe a piece of it and maybe it's way more than that and maybe it's more than I can even comprehend, but the whole why, or maybe am I not supposed to even ask that question? Why did God decide to do this thing with humans with the ability to choose the wrong way in 10 minutes? Please.
[00:56:30] Speaker B: That's a big question. That is a podcast in itself, you know.
[00:56:34] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:56:35] Speaker B: But I will tell you, I will share.
In nutshell, I don't know how much you read that book, the one that you were showing. I recommend I read the whole thing.
[00:56:45] Speaker A: And I took about three pages of notes here.
[00:56:48] Speaker B: Oh my goodness.
[00:56:50] Speaker A: And, and literally I've got so many questions on it, but. And I'm going to reread it probably 10 times.
[00:56:56] Speaker B: Yeah, well, people tell Me, when they read, start reading the book for the third time, it start to make sense. So the back to your question. Why did God.
So the question is why did God chose us knowing that we are going to mess it up. Yeah, right, right. Well Lord help me here because if I start, I had to finish the answer because I don't want to leave the people hanging.
[00:57:23] Speaker A: You know, we can go long if we need to or come to a pause and do part two if we need to.
[00:57:29] Speaker B: Yeah. Because to understand that we had to go back to the, to the world before Adam and the earth and what happened here on the earth before Adam was created, we were sent here to continue to replace something that went wrong before we arrived here.
Going back to those two trees in the garden, why there were those two trees like knowing Adam was going to make the wrong choice because God foreknew that Adam was going to make this wrong choice.
So God already prepared the redemption. Like that's why it says the lamb that was slain before the foundation of the world or foundation of the earth.
So God foreknew all this was going to happen and he allowed that to happen because that is the only way he can get rid of Satan out of this planet. Legally.
[00:58:46] Speaker A: Legally. That's a key word.
[00:58:49] Speaker B: Yes. Because everything God does, he is just in all his ways. God cannot. Just like our politicians, you know, they cannot make a law and then work around it. No, for God, his word is his law. Once he speak, once he gives, once he establishes it, then he had to abide by that word.
God cannot lie.
[00:59:19] Speaker A: This is going to rock some people's world.
What do you mean? Before what? Satan was on the earth before what? You know. So yeah, there's a lot to go into this and it's right out of scripture. Like Abraham said two verses. There will be two verses to confirm everything he's saying. And so I know this is going to be a big topic, but there is more and this is a perfect example when there's a question. I don't quite see this clearly. This doesn't make sense to me. I wonder why. I mean we could just stop with I don't know.
But no matter what, I'll trust God. And that's great. The answer, trust God is always the right answer.
But I think sometimes we say that intellectually.
Well, I'll just say for myself.
But in my heart do I really trust?
Because I do have so many questions in here and if I have questions in my heart and I'm not seeing clearly guys, that allows a Potential crack in the door opening that door for the liar to come in and plant a seed in my heart of a lie of a doubt.
And so I can't just stay up in this intellectual realm of saying I know God, I'm just going to trust. I mean you can but it's vulnerable in our heart and that's I think a big deal. Humans have this vulnerability. They want to know that they'll be provided for and protected. We want security provision, protection and we'll do, we'll take that on ourself. We will work hard, strive, grab from that tree of knowledge of good and evil. We will construct things in our life. We will get the big retirement account, we'll all whatever to try to see that tomorrow will be provided for and protected because ultimately we don't trust, trust.
We don't trust this invisible God that we can't see and that so we there's.
I had unbelievable I belief and unbelief both. That's one of my first prayers when I started seeking the kingdom. Help me with my unbelief, I believe but help me with my unbelief. So these deeper things there are answers. And I think that's part of this reconstruction that's going on right now.
So much in the last since 2020 it seems like everything that can be shaken is being shaken right now. If it's not of the kingdom of God, it's being shaken all the time. I patients tell me Dr. Ben, ever since 2020 this got revealed, this corruption in every institution. I didn't realize how corrupt our country, our government, our world, just the awful, horrible, horrible things that have been revealed.
It's all being shaken.
We're all, it's all getting deconstructed.
So the truth, God's way, the kingdom is will be reconstructed in us. That malware wipe clean the original software, the original intent of God, the truth, the kingdom, the way Jesus is the way.
There's a lot there guys. And so there's some deep questions, there's some deep answers.
And so Abraham, we will have to have you back and I may have to just do a show before I have you back because I have so many quotes in here I was going to read. I could probably spend an hour just reading from your book to the audience but audience, go get the book. There it is, here it is. What happened to God? The great reconstruct.
And that's what's happening guys. The great awakening.
Deconstruction, reconstruction. We're in the middle of it and it's an exciting time.
So Abraham, thank you for the part. You're doing a huge part in bringing some knowledge from God the kingdom into the earth so we can have some aha moments, some revelation of these deeper things so we're not knocked to and fro by every little thing.
But let me, I'll just let you wrap it up in the last few minutes here about anything you want to say and, and where to get your book and how to find you and your courses. Abraham has some great courses online.
I don't know how many books, probably 40 plus. But I'll give you the last word here, Abraham.
[01:03:36] Speaker B: Well, thank you. This has been a blessing and a privilege and honor to come back and share because since 2020 now we are in a different world because things are unraveling. Every falsehood is going to be revealed, it's going to be exposed. Every lie of the devil.
Like you know, for ME it started, Dr. Ben, with the realization that 98 of everything I believed was a lie.
That's where it started. And I grew up in church.
98% of everything that I believed was true. Thought to be true. Wasn't true.
It was misinformed or partial truth. There was some ingredients of truth in it. Like you just said, Jesus is the way. You know, we say Jesus is the way truth and life.
And most people think Jesus is the way to heaven. That's not what he said.
He said no one comes to the Father except through me. He's the way back to the Father.
Because we lost our Father, we lost our sonship in God's kingdom. And Jesus came to restore. That's the first thing he gives to anybody who believes in him. John, chapter one verse. Verse 12. As many as received him believed in his name.
He gave them the right to become a child of God. That's the starting point.
Your life in the Kingdom as his child, as a son, as a daughter. Then. Then the journey start.
So that's where it started from for me. So I have to unlearn. That's. That's part of repentance, redoing it, unlearning everything I thought to be true and going back to the source, the Bible and God and learning from the start again. That's what happened to me.
And I'm still in that reconstruct. So all these books and courses that we have came from that.
So if you like to check it out, we have two website. All the courses are available on our university website. We have an online university called the kingdom university.org all the kingdom courses are free. You can have this for free.
Even the book that you are, that Dr. Ben is talking about, about it is free. Now if you go to the website or you can order from Amazon, then the other website we have, all the books are the kingdom network.org all the books, study guides, workshops material. What we are doing now is releasing workshop materials, helping people make this transition into the kingdom because they hear the gospel of the kingdom and they say, what do we do now?
Do we continue?
They cannot continue what they have been doing because it won't make any sense to them. It's like it's a new, different world.
So how do we help people to make that transition? Emotionally, spiritually, in their physical health, financially, relationally, relationship. We have eight workshops that we have prepared.
Kingdom Deliverance workshop. Starting with the relationship with the Father, then emotional healing, then spiritual healing, then relationship healing, then finances. The last one is health, Physical health.
And I wish I could have consulted you in writing about the physical health. Maybe you could have contributed some of your expertise in that. Maybe there is room still in the future.
So we have eight workshops that we have prepared. They're all on the website thekingdomnetwork.org so everything starts with restoring our relationship with our Heavenly Father, Abba, our daddy with him.
That's where it starts. That's where the peace starts. Once you know you are one with him, God accepts you, loves you, that's where the peace comes.
Until then, there is this unsettling feeling. Am I doing enough? Am I doing something wrong? Did I do that right? Did I do this right? You know, always living in conflict, not sure, sure of who you are and whether God accepts and loves you or not. That's where the peace begins.
And we have enormous amount of resources for that. I would encourage anyone to take advantage of it.
So thank you.
[01:08:48] Speaker A: Thank you, Abraham, John, you're a blessing to so many. I appreciate you coming on the podcast today, guys. I hope you've been blessed. I know some of this might have rocked your world a little bit and blown your mind, but just talk to God about it. And above all, seek the kingdom first.
And ask Holy Spirit to lead you into all truth, because he will. He's eager to do this.
We will be back next week with another great show, guys. Veritas wellnessmember.com we archive everything there and all the podcast platforms and YouTube and all that. So spread this message. Follow far and wide to all the people you love. We'll see you next week. Bye bye.
