The 5 Falls of Genesis | Chris Blackeby

January 12, 2026 01:09:59
The 5 Falls of Genesis | Chris Blackeby
You’re the Cure w/ Dr. Ben Edwards
The 5 Falls of Genesis | Chris Blackeby

Jan 12 2026 | 01:09:59

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Dr. Ben Edwards sits down with Chris Blackeby to unpack “The 5 Falls of Genesis” and why what happened in Genesis 1–11 explains so much of what we’re seeing in the world today. From the divine council (Psalm 82) to Babel (Deuteronomy 32) to the bigger purpose of Israel and the coming of Christ—this episode points to one truth:

Jesus didn’t just fix one fall. He came as the complete solution.

Watch more of Chris Blackeby's message on YouTube at As He Is Ministries!

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[00:00:00] Speaker A: Hey, everybody. Dr. Ben Edwards here. Welcome to another episode of you're the Cure. Gonna have a great show. Chris Blackaby is back. I had so many people text me immediately, like in the middle of them listening to the first episode, Chris, that we did together. I still go back and rewind that and listen again. And we may pick up off a little bit where we left off there, but definitely have some more stuff I want to talk about. But real quick for the audience, guys, you know my goal here. What I believe is God designed you. You didn't evolve out of nothing, to pond scum, to a monkey, to you. There's this incredible design, but it's beyond the physical mechanical design of your cell. That's part of it. And people break down in that area and they look for pharmaceutical or nutraceutical relief, and that's fine, too. We talked about the last show, but as you've. If you've been listening for a while, you know that our journey has gone into that deeper realm of our heart beliefs. And these heart beliefs produce behaviors and words and actions, and those have fruit, those have consequences. And God's given us the ability to choose what we want to believe. And therefore our beliefs and our thoughts, our actions, our words spoken come out of that thing. So what I'm getting at is there's actual fruit in our life. Not only physical disease, but other fruit. And in the whole world. Imagine all the people in the whole world, if we don't go deeper into what do we really believe and why do we believe it, we're going to have some fruit that doesn't line up with the fruits of the spirit. So it's. It's so much just about the heart. The heart, the heart, the heart. And, you know, my people are destroyed from lack of knowledge it talks about. So there's a lot of knowledge to be gained that we talk about on the podcast when it comes to physical stuff, but so much knowledge to be gained about God, his character, his nature, and his divine plan. That's what we're going to talk about today. A piece of that today. I don't know how we're going to get this done in an hour, Chris, but what I really asked Chris to come back and talk about today, what really touched me, and I think the listeners really, what. What comments and feedback I get, I think this is going to be a key piece, and it's called the Five Falls of Genesis. And again, we just have an hour. We're going to touch the surface of this, guys. But go to Chris's YouTube channel, his ministry. It's called as He Is Ministry. I think that's a YouTube. I have it right here on my phone. I'm going to look real quick. Or you could tell us Chris. Is that the name? That's right, yeah, yeah. [00:02:44] Speaker B: You type in my name and as he is, it will come up. [00:02:48] Speaker A: Okay. And then guys, I highly recommend that YouTube channel as he Is Ministry. But then go to the playlist, scroll down. There's so many amazing and great playlists on there. And the five falls of Genesis is one of those. And that's what we're going to talk about today. But for quoting some of that, Chris and I just typed this, so it may not be an exact quote, but you say if you don't understand what happened between Genesis 1 through 11, you won't understand what is happening now. And that's another piece of this, guys. So many people are stressed out, freaked out about now. So much corruption, so much evil, so much. And the political system's just not going to get it done. I don't think. Maybe you think it is. We don't need to get into that. But just the exposure. So much evil and corruption. And if you don't understand Genesis 1:11, it's going to be hard for you to understand how to interpret all these things now. And then Genesis 12 and on is the solution. That's what Chris talks about so much. It's I think a five part series, amazing hour and a half each probably. It's a lot of content. Another piece that you mentioned, Chris, is that everybody in the Old Testament knew about what we're going to talk about today. Everybody in the New Testament knew about what we're talking about today. Jesus certainly knew about it. And even the, our, our fathers of, of our Christian faith knew about it. But I didn't know about this. Friends and family and colleagues I talked to don't know about it. Peers don't know about it. So there's a lot here that we need to unpack. But it's going to come back and intertwine to our emotions, our thoughts, our words, and therefore a direct tie to our health. It all, you can't separate this stuff. It all is together. [00:04:37] Speaker B: So it is. It really is. [00:04:40] Speaker A: Anyways, Chris, welcome back to the show. I don't know where you'd want to start. Besides, I mean, we can touch on, you know, last time, the show. The three realms. Guys, that's another playlist. The three realms. Go listen. That too. If you don't understand body, soul, spirit, you don't understand the three realms and that we're seated in the third realm, the heavenly realm. And there's a lot of stuff going on in that second realm, you know, that's invisible forces. And the body of Christ is going to put on display the manifold wisdom of God, the multi sided wisdom of God to those spiritual forces in the heavenly realms, that second heaven. This is a big deal if God has chosen to use human beings, redeemed sons. Go listen to the Sonship series. If God has chosen his plan, he wants to do this and is doing it in community, in family, with sons, kids, redeeming the earth, redeeming creation, and all of creation's waiting for the sons. If this is God's plan to get this thing done with his family, then we sure better know about this and these, the divine council, the fallen parts of the divine council into that second realm. I'm, if you're new to the show, guys, I might be blowing your mind now and you probably tuned out already, but hopefully you're sticking with this. And remember, this is a surface, I mean we'll hit some deep stuff, but that we're touching on. Go to the YouTube, listen to all those, make it your 2026 resolution. All right, Chris, maybe. Did I give you any, any piece of nugget you want to jump in on and clarify or elaborate on that? [00:06:24] Speaker B: That's great. And to talk about the five force Genesis is to talk about the complete biblical worldview. And so, you know, I recorded that in 2020 because of what was happening in the world during that time. And I'll, I'll start by making this statement. Human DNA is the most important or the human body is the most important technology inside creation because it can house Yahweh. Yeah. And it's in, in housing Yahweh and us being made in the image of God, it's the most important technology because we're made in his image and we govern his creation. And so if you can affect us, you can affect everything. So everybody wants in on this DNA that humans are everybody. God wants in, literally wants to become one. He became flesh and he wants to dwell inside us. There's lots of other beings, interested parties, nefarious people, and they want in on your human body as well. Because if they can get their record into your body, then they can get into your emotions and into your words and then, then you are now changing creation for their purposes. Because they don't have a body. They want a body. They want your body. Everything from theology or Influencing your emotions or your thoughts, to actually physically getting into your physical DNA, to complete possession. That's a whole, you know, line of increasing severity. But they're trying to get into your emotions and to affect your words and your actions, to affect what happens on the earth for the kingdom, whether you're Christian or not. And there's many ways to affect the human body. Words, do we know about that? Epigenetics, decisions, words. But belief systems begin to change who you are. And then there's direct medical intervention or technological intervention and chemical intervention. They're getting to, to our bodies, to change the way our soul, our spirit, to our soul, to our body can affect the Earth. So they can dial down or dumb down our body, they can dial down or dumb down our souls. Then this amazing spirit that we are is like, cannot express itself in the earth. And that's what they're trying to do because everyone's after the human body. But the good news is God's after the human body and he has made a way for us to, to be what he originally intended. That's the good news of the gospel. So when we talk about Genesis 1 to 11, Genesis 12 is the halfway point of the Bible chronologically. So it's 2,000 years from Genesis 1 to Genesis 12, then 2,000 years from Genesis 12 to Jesus than like 30 years, 100 years. And so Genesis 11 is a halfway point. And Genesis 1:11 shows all the problems that hit humanity. Yeah. And so we think that Jesus died to undo Adam and Eve in, in that situation. But Jesus's work on the cross undoes lots of things. The atonement is an incredible, the powerful process that Jesus did. And so we want to look at the, this, the things that affected humanity from Genesis 1 to 11. Then we can see what Jesus did and what he did for us and why he did it. We can also see what's happening in the world today and why they're trying to. Why they're trying to affect our thoughts and our body. And then you understand why governments are making certain decisions. And you won't be fearful of it because you know that Jesus has already provided a way out that they cannot control you or affect you. It's the whole package. Jesus's work on the cross is the complete package. There's nothing it didn't address or affect for us. [00:10:52] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, that's a huge point. And I think that's probably one of the motivators of me just personally in my journey and my learning, my seeking the kingdom first is people are Looking for solutions and that I get a little aggravated because I feel like we're putting a lot of energy and focus and hope into lots of different solutions. And I don't want to sound. I'm not calling anyone out in particular on this. It's just. Wait a minute, guys. Even if XYZ solution you've come up with actually gets in there and does whatever. We're humans. Give it five years, ten years, one generation. We're right back to where there's a recurring thing going on in history here. And there's one solution in which you talk about Genesis 12 and on is the one solution that. And what you just said, Jesus is the full package solution. So that's great. And that's why we need to dive into this. Guys. Maybe we could talk about that divine counsel, because even going back in Genesis, come, let us make man in our image. [00:12:03] Speaker B: Right? Yeah, yeah. [00:12:05] Speaker A: And which you could say, well, that was God and Jesus, the word that was there at the beginning. And Holy Spirit, those three, that's the hour. [00:12:15] Speaker B: Yeah. Which is a plural word. [00:12:18] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. So maybe it's lom. And some of the other verses, I don't have them all memorized. That you refer to in your Five Falls series about this divine council and gods with an S. I mean there's God Most High. Let's not, let's start say that right at the beginning. Yeah. The God Most High. And that's how he's referred to all through scripture. Yeah. But in a lot of those verses it's. He's referred that way because there's some other gods. [00:12:44] Speaker B: Just getting them. White pen's ready. [00:12:46] Speaker A: Oh, perfect. Yeah, there's other. Other gods. And you know, my kids, we homeschool the kiddos. And some of them are young and reading about these gods. Little G. And just hearing some of those stories. Yeah, I think back to. Yeah, those are just some made up things. These crazy people back in the ancient days just came up with these entities in their minds and you know. [00:13:08] Speaker B: No. [00:13:08] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:13:09] Speaker B: They're real beings. And the Bible treats them as real. [00:13:12] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:13:13] Speaker B: It treats BAAL as a real being, treats Molech as a real being. You know, when the Egypt, when the Israelites left Egypt and there was 10 plagues. Those 10 plagues are aimed at 10 gods. And what they govern you? You govern the Nile. I govern the Nile. You, you govern livestock. I govern livestock. You know, you govern the sun. I govern the sun. And so. And there's a reason for this. And so if you look at Psalm 82, I've just pulled it up here, and it's a good snapshot of this divine council. And once you see it, you'll see many in scripture. So basically, this works with the lure on. It does. All right. Yeah, Here we go. I dry a darker pen. Okay. So God works in community. He works in family, always has. And he created many beings, like angels of all different classes. There might be lots and lots different classes of beings out there. And he governs with them as a family and them. And then he had his own children in his image. Angels aren't in his image. We are in his image and likeness. Okay, so here we go. He is God. Okay. That's his crown. Yeah. [00:14:40] Speaker A: Yep. [00:14:41] Speaker B: And then he governs with lots of other beings. Okay, like that. Yep. And then, then we'll say, you know, there's his Son at his right hand, and he wants, for those overcome, he wants someone to sit on there with him, with Jesus. The bride sits on the throne of God. Or basically he wants humanity. We can just say he wants humanity in this. He wants us to take our place in this. This is God. And he talks to lots of other beings. Okay, so in Psalm 82, is. Is the classic. And the Psalm 82 says, it says, God has taken his place in the divine council. In the midst of the gods. He holds judgment. What's happening? Psalm 82 Is that God, capital G, God, capital G or capital E for Eloim. God is taking his place amongst the gods. Lowercase, lowercase chi. God. Sorry, that's reversed for you. I, I realize that now. [00:16:05] Speaker A: I got it. I get it. [00:16:06] Speaker B: You work it out. So, yep, the God, so Lord of Lords, King of kings, like, you know, Most high, El, Elion, Most High God, the God, capital T, capital G, has taken his place amongst the. The gods. He's holding judgment with them. Okay? This is a divine council, he says. And God says to these guys, how long will you judge unjustly and show partiality to the wicked? Give justice to the weak and to the fatherless, Maintain the right of the afflicted and the destitute, Rescue the weak and the needy, deliver them from the hand of the wicked. They have neither knowledge nor understanding. They walk about in darkness. All the foundations, the earth are shaken. I said, you are gods, sons of the Most High, all of you. Nevertheless, like man, you shall die and full like any prince. Okay, so Jesus quotes this. He says, ye are God. He's quoting Psalm 82. What's happening here is God is talking to these other gods, okay? Of all the other nations, He Said, you haven't done much. Just you haven't done what's right. You're supposed to look after the poor, look after the needy, and you haven't. So I said to you, you are gods, okay? But now you're not gods. Now you're going to die like men die. That's exactly what happened to these people. They had to be these gods. They're to be judged. Okay? So that's a divine council. Once you see that divine counsel, you will see it over and over. Beginning of Job, the devil appears before God and says, what are we going to do? There's lots in, in Daniel where angels come like these guys. They come talk to God and say, hey, God on earth, this is happening. This is happening. Have a discussion and say, okay, go down to earth and deliver my judgment. There's another one. When the king of Israel is choosing whether to go to war or not, and there's a divine council and it records it. And he says, God says, what should I do about this, this wicked Israel king? And one of the, one of the spirits say, hey, I'll go down to earth and put a lot and lie through his prophets. And then he'll make the wrong, wrong decision. They have discussion. They say, that's a good decision. Off you go. Okay, so this is happening all through scripture. Once you see it, you'll see it more and more and more. And this was the general understanding of the Jews. They understood that, that God worked in, in a divine council. It was written in their scriptures in Psalm 82. There's many others, but we've got a short time here. 1 Kings 22, 19, 25. Is that another divine council? Daniel 4:13 to 17 is another one. Daniel 10 is another one, you know, so these things are happening and are still happening now. And what's happening is us as humans, okay? We are to grow up and, and to take our place. Because the revelation says, if those have a common, they'll be seated on my throne. You know, Jesus says that, and we are the come and take our place here and rule with God. But these are created beings, but we are, we are uniquely begotten sons of God. We're very different. These are called sons of God, but we are monogeneous, uniquely begotten sons of God. We can hope, we can house Yahweh. We're one. If any man being Christ is one spirit with the Lord, these guys aren't that, okay? That's why they can be. There's no redemption for these guys that they see the Glory and make a bad decision. They're gone. But we got saved and put back up here. And so our life on earth is growing up to be a son that can rule and reign in heaven with God. As Paul says, don't you know you'll govern the angels? How come you can't judge amongst yourselves? You are going to govern angels. You're going to judge angels. What does that mean? You're going to sit here and make decisions on. On the ruling of God's kingdom and what he's done through all creation, through all time. Because he wants a family to do it with. And that's what he's doing. Yeah, and so that's a very quick introduction. There's lots and lots on that. There's a man called Michael Heiser, Dr. Michael Heiser, and you can just YouTube his stuff, it's free. And he'll go into great detail on that. Yeah, it's just a snapshot. But we're not just human beings who got saved and now go walk around heaven with harps like we are his literal children. And he wants to govern the world with his children. And some angels didn't like that and they interfered with us. In Genesis 6, it says that the sons of God saw the doors of memory, beautiful. And took whoever they wanted and had children by them. And they were like the heroes of old. So they're the giants and the Nephilim, okay, Because it's interbred and they've affected our DNA. And so those guys got judged. They're in trouble. And, and then those, those giants and those Nephilim got judged in the flood as well, but happened again after the flood as well. So that's still. That nonsense still continues to this day because everyone's trying to get into our DNA. That's why you must be born again. Okay? We can't fix this thing up because if I'm European like you are, well, I promise you, my ancestors worshiped Zeus, they worshiped Thor, they worshiped Diana, they worshiped lots of, lots of things. And they were traded with these beings. They were given money, blood, children, you know, and invited these gods who do exist into their lives, into their DNA and promise their children and their children's children to it. You know, not saying God did that, I'm saying our ancestors did that. And you can't save this thing. It needs to be born again. And that's why you must receive what the word of Christ, which is the person of Christ, which is the DNA. Because word is, you know, Logos, the word is seed. I mean, seed is spermata. You know, the word is the seed. So you literally are born again. When you receive Christ, a new word comes into you, okay, which is the person of Jesus Christ. And you are re fathered from heaven. And now that's your true nature. And that new life that's in you is your true identity. And that affects your soul and your body rather than outside in the world. Trying to do it through words, thought patterns, control systems, fear, chemicals, medical intervention, outside in, okay? And God's working from inside out. He now lives inside you, and he can reverse that process. And that's just one of the things that Jesus's death on the cross is doing. So we grow up and become like him and. And would judge like him and judge rightly for his glory, like Jesus did. And it's an amazing salvation. So there's lots and lots to go into. But I just want to tell you, just I gave you those verses. If people go back and look at them, they'll see God in heaven and people talking to God and making decisions. And some of these people, some of these. One of the class, these angels is called watcher angels, okay? So sons of God. Sometimes it's called sons of God. Sometimes they're called watcher angels, okay? And so you read in Daniel, it says the watchers did this. Who are the watchers? They're these people. They're supposed to look after certain areas of the earth and they're governing it. And. And then sometimes they do it themselves, and sometimes they dob on people to God. They go to God and say, hey, this person did this. And God make a decision, sometimes make decision themselves. And so you can see in Daniel, they prayed to God and then Michael. And then, then the angel comes to talk to him. Sorry, I was delayed. I had to get Michael to come and help me. So someone came down and the Prince of Persia, which is one of these guys, but a fallen one, is looking after Persia. And this angel's coming in. He's like, hey, who are you, bro? I govern this area. I have the right. You know, they've sacrificed kids to me, blood to me. Like, I'm powerful. I govern this area. And just because some Jewish guys is praying doesn't mean you can come into here. And he resisted this angel until Michael came down. Another angel came and sorted him out, outranked him. And the messenger could finally get to. To Daniel. Yeah, so that's all these things which are happening in. In the. In the. In invisible realms. [00:25:02] Speaker A: Yeah. Maybe. Could you talk about Babel and the dispersion, the 70. Yeah, I forget the verse. But according to the number of gods. [00:25:16] Speaker B: Yeah, so that's Deuteronomy. Might bring up here 32, 6, 7, 8. I believe this. I've surely got it here. Let's look at that. Okay. Okay. This is called Jerome. 32, 6, 7, 8. Oh, here it is. Oh, Deuteronomy. 32, 7 to 9. Okay, so Genesis 10 is a table of nations. 70 nations. Okay, but. And then what they're doing is they all get together at Babel. This is after the Flood. So we have Genesis, Garden of Eden. We launch out. It gets pretty messed up. We start training with other beings, we start messing with animals, we start eating each other. Okay? It's not good. It's just like God's. Like, this is evil. There's only one person pure in his generations that hasn't been messed up in his DNA, and that's Noah. So I'm starting it with Noah. Wipes it out, and Noah gets a relaunch. It really is a new Garden of Eden. Go forth, multiply, go again. Yeah. So we start again. It gets out to 70 nations and. And they'll get together and they start building something, like some ability to get to heaven. It could just be pure height in their thinking, or it could be like some portal technology. I don't know. Point is, the Tower of Babel was an issue. He's saying if they can build this thing, they could build anything. You know what's coming next. You know, all these people getting together. And why are they building this. This ability to get into the heavens? Yeah, because remember, we. We tried with the heavens before, and it was a real problem, and it caused a lot of damage. So we. God wants to shut it down, so he shuts it down and spreads out their languages, okay? So they can't talk to each other. And that's where the new languages come from. The city nations disperse now. Jeromey 32, seven to nine. If it's from the Septuagint and not from the Masoretic. Okay, because the Masoretic, even though it's Hebrew, is actually later. The Septuagint, even though it's in Greek, isn't is earlier. Yeah. And Jesus quoted the Septuagint when he quotes. And there's a difference between the Masoretic Septuagint. We know that he quoted the Septuagint. Okay, yeah. [00:27:28] Speaker A: I'm gonna make a note. If we have time, we'll come back and clarify that. [00:27:31] Speaker B: But. [00:27:32] Speaker A: Okay, keep going. [00:27:33] Speaker B: So then Septuagint is a Greek translation of the Old Testament and the Masoretic is a Hebrew, but the Masoretic came after Christianity was being established on the Earth. And, and so it's. [00:27:52] Speaker A: There's some question marks. [00:27:53] Speaker B: There's a question marks. Yeah, because. [00:27:56] Speaker A: And all of our current translations are from the Masoretic. [00:28:02] Speaker B: I mean, pretty much, I think, is the. Is it new living will have the Septuagint in brackets afterwards or something? Yeah, I can see why you'd think, hey, the Hebrew obviously more accurate, but as we get more and more information, as we've got the Dead Sea Scrolls, they come out. Well, they line up with the Septuagint, not with the Masoretic. So. And they're not tampered with. They're in boxes for 2,000 years. So, yeah. All right, so Jerome 327 to 9. Remember the days of old. Consider that the years of many generations. Ask your father. He will show you. Your elders now will tell you. So remember what happened long time ago, okay? This, and this is Deuteronomy. So this is old for Deuteronomy, okay? When the Most High. So. Not so, Elion, God Most High, our father, God Most High, gave the nations their inheritance and he divided mankind. He fixed the borders of the peoples according to the numbers of the sons of God. So what he's saying here is that, remember, he divided up all the nations, Babel, okay? And he gave him. He assigned them to the numbers of. He fixed the borders of the peoples according to the numbers of the sons of God. So he gave them gods, okay? And these gods are supposed to govern them and look after them and do a good job. [00:29:20] Speaker A: Part of the divine council. [00:29:22] Speaker B: Divine council. So when we say gods, okay, they're just beings. But we saw some 82. He said, like the 70 of them, you are gods, okay? He spoke that word, you know, if he said to you, you're on fire, you'd be on fire, okay? Whatever God says happens. So you're in the divine council. This is a terrible picture, okay? Blasphemy. He said to 70 of them, okay, see, you guys, you are gods. Because what happened is God looked after people directly and then they messed. Then they traded and messed up. He wiped out, started again with Noah, and then they did it again because, all right, you're getting step gods, you know what I'm saying? Like, you're all. Yeah, you're all getting your own. You know, when the gods just think of spiritual beings look after you, okay, you're all getting them and you portion them out. And so all those good look after them. And then Psalm 82, we find out that a certain measure of them, not all of them, but a certain measure of them did wrong. It's like you didn't do justice, didn't do fair. You're wicked, you're selfish. These people are blind. They don't know where they're going. So here's your judgment. Like the men you rule after, you're going to die. Like they die. Like you're no longer gods anymore. I'm de Goding you. You're no longer immortal. Gods or beings. You will die and die to be covered from God, which will be the lake of fire for them. Okay? And then verse 8 says, but the Lord's portion is his people, Jacob, his lot of heritage. So what happened? So that's Genesis 11. He sent them all out. In Genesis 12 he says, okay, I'm gonna have my own people. You know, there's God, step gods and the people. And God says, but I'm gonna have my own Elyon. Lord Most High says, I'm gonna start my own. I'm gonna start with this guy Abraham. With this guy Abraham. I'm gonna start a new people group on the earth that can receive the Messiah. So they had to stay human enough because everyone's trading and doing naughty stuff and getting stuff in their DNA by doing ceremonies and worshiping things and cutting and blood and trading and all these terrible things that happen to this very day. You do it to. To children to get into them when they're young. Fear and terror, you know, the whole thing. So he's only a group that don't do that. It starts with Abraham. What's the first thing he does with Abraham? Stops child sacrifice. He goes, go sacrifice your kid. He goes, of course. Why? Because everybody's doing it is on the table. You have a kid, well, maybe a God's gonna sacrifice. It's. They all knew you kill your kids. Okay, so when he said to, it wasn't like when he said to Abraham, go sacrifice your son, your uniquely begotten son. The same way it talks about Jesus. Uniquely begotten. Your uniquely begotten son. Because by a promise, yeah, go kill him. And Abraham's like, yep, because that's what you do. You kill kids to God and God and they went up. And then God cut it. He's stopping that no more. So under Abraham Judaic and then the Christian, we don't sacrifice children, but the Evan around them did. And we see that like Israel went to war and the king comes out, sacrifices his kid, his baby on the wall, and the war turns against Israel because that blood empowers these gods. And God was stopping that. That's one of the first things he did. And then the second, your first thing he did is like, you must be a promise. So you received by a promise. And no one can. No one can boast. That's us. Because he's Abraham's the father, a father of our faith, Not Moses, Abraham's father, our faith. And Abraham was considered righteous because he believed a word. That's what it says in Romans. And that's us. We're considered righteous. We believe the word. And he stops child sacrifice. And God wants to save all humanity. So humans are lots of child sacrifice, including our ancestors. Yep. So God, have you ever seen Lion, Witch in the Wardrobe, and Aslan? He gives up his life and, and he gets killed. And then. And the girls come and find him. And then he's back and he says, hey, no, there's a. There's a deeper magic. There's a. A contract before the contract. You know, I go, she thinks she won here, but there, the first contract we call the deeper magic. The deeper magic is if someone gives up their life willingly, you know. And so Jesus was the lamb slam before the foundation of the world. And he came explained again here. And because that is before create, before creation began, that's the record we pull on. So even we have sacrifice around children, we can be declared clean because there was a sacrifice, the lamb slain before the foundation of the world before. And that the first contract overrides everything because that blood cries out a better word than the blood of Abel. And Abel's blood is crying out for justice, for his murder. But there's a better word. That's the lamb slain before the foundation of the world, which is God who justifies the ungodly. So even if you murder your own children, okay, that first sacrifice, the lamb slain before the foundation of the world clears it up. If you made vows and contracts, they all get wiped out by the first contract. And you, you enter that first contract by believing that God would do that for you. That's to receive the gospel. So it doesn't matter what you've done in your life, it can be cleaned up, spiritually speaking, for all eternity. And are the earthly consequences for your actions? Yeah, there are earthly consequences for your actions, but not in eternity. In this regard, your sin will never be held against you because the lamb's laying before the foundation of the world, and that is removed from you. There's no accusation against you from God, no matter what you've done. That's just another thing that the cross did. It wiped out everything. Accidental sin, deliberate, planned sin, interbreeding with angels, inviting other gods into your life vows. It went up to what we do now. Lots of stuff we do now is equivalent, but we just do it in the western way, which is through medical systems. And yeah, you know, I don't go too far. It's. Yeah, it's not good to stare at the darkness too long. It's all around us and. And I will get really angry and I'll have to go for a walk. It makes me really angry. But Christ has dealt with it all. So I might quickly say in Genesis, we'll call it the five folds of Genesis. There's five big ones. First is Satan is there. So Satan has. Is already fallen. And just the classic orthodox understanding just put up with Satan, which a covering angel who looked over into God was covered in jewels and he could see what God was doing and he expressed it to all the earth. Okay, I've got verses for that, but. We'll get them later. I'll send them to you later. But there's a couple times where it's recorded in scripture about what the devil did. Okay, so he's looking in and. And then he saw that God's going to create his own sons because he's the most magnificent. Okay, he's in Eden. He's the most magnificent. He's amazing. He saw another group's coming who's. God's going to have his own sons. Not created beings, but his own sons. And that's rebellion in his heart. And he said, I will ascend. I'm gonna be greater than God and be higher than him. I'm going to govern and obviously convince other angels to do that. And he gets cast down. When Jesus quotes that. I remember seeing Satan get cast down on that day. And he. Jesus is really excited about it. He jumps in 12. It says he was really happy telling the story. But the day Satan fell. And so that's the first fool Satan. And because he's first every rebellion sort of named after him, even it's not directly related to him. Okay. We just call it Satan. And. And so there's that. And then there's Adam and Eve obviously, who choose the tree of knowledge of good and evil. After listening to Satan, his words got into them. They. They be. When their words got in, they behaved like him. And that's that word thing. We get a word like we get Christ, the words, we behave like him. So Satan's words come in, changes them and they choose works and religion rather than relationship with God. So they can no longer. And death enters, so it can no longer be in Eden. So they're out. Remember Genesis 6 where humans and angels were other beings, traded, slept with each other literally and mixed their DNA, literally. Okay? That's a big issue. We have the Tower of Babel, which is a, a big issue. Coordination to separate it out, okay? And then, and they get gods and those gods don't do very well. And that's what Paul's talking about on Mars Hill. He says, you know, we're all God's children, etc, etc he says, but now God commands all men to come back to him through his son. So Paul's undoing Babel in that moment. Of course you also get tongues and other things to have a heavenly language. And then the other big thing, the fifth one is, is idolatry. And we must understand idolatry because what you overshadow you, what you put yourself under actually begins to change you. Okay? So you listen to the news and listen to fearful news all the time. That record gets into you and it changes your physiology. You know, you'll be in permanent fight or flight vigilant state. Okay? Then you can't digest, you don't heal. You can't relate to people because you're looking, your body's looking for a bear, for the big fear. You're no longer intimate with people. You can't have micro expressions. You stop making oxytocin. Why? Because you heard words from the TV, the 24 hour news, it's changed who you are, it's changed your behavior on the earth. Now you're behaving like someone based in fear and they're robbing years from you and moments from you. Because if you're in fear, you can't look at somebody and care for them or love them. You got no oxytocin because you're on adrenaline, you know, And I look at micro expressions of this person and empathizing with them. I'm looking for a bear to come through the wall to kill me. And it's all because the way the news was presented to you, okay? They're trying to get their words into you and more if you worship something, okay, they can really change your DNA. So we can see in Genesis and Exodus there's a list of the 12 tribes, the 12 sons of Jacob, okay? And they're the 12 tribes. We know what the 12 tribes are. That's all very clear. But then Revelation, the list of the 12 tribes is different. Different list. And people say, look, the Bible's inaccurate. How can they. They wouldn't make such a simple error. They all knew what the Torah said. Okay, but there's two missing. Dan and Ephraim are missing. And why are Dan and Ephraim missing? Because they gave themselves to idols. And it says that in the Scriptures. They gave themselves idols. Dan went north, took. Took idols and went north, like into Europe. Probably no longer Jews. They changed so much by being with these other beings. They're no longer Jews now. They're Gentiles. And same with Ephraim. Ephraim also gave himself to idols, and the Bible records that, but all the other Jewish extra books record it too, like Jubilees and things like that. They will record the same story. I'm not saying they're scripture. I'm just saying that's part of their history. And it lines up with the biblical account that these guys took because Ephraim kept giving themselves to idols all the time, you know, and. And Dan kept giving himself to idols. And Dan was the most southern tribe that went to the very north, took idols, and just kept going. And north is where Mount Hebron is, where the angels and. And men connected. So that's why Dan went there. That's where Bashan is. So you hear about the bulls of Bashan. Jesus says, well, David prophesying, it's in, you know, all my bones. You know, you can see my bones, everything. And the balls of Bashan surround me. That's Jesus died on the cross. And you can see all these beings looking at him like, is this the son of God? Have we won? You know, and that's all in the north. And that's why Dan went north and kept going. So, yeah, if you give yourself to idols, it literally changes who you are. So Dan and Ephraim are no longer Jewish tribes. They're Gentile. Tribes need to be saved through Christ, like us as Gentiles. Yeah. [00:42:17] Speaker A: Can you talk about, you know, God choosing his people through Abraham, through faith. But you. You talk about in the series, that whole thing, Abraham, all the. And then Moses, the law, all of it was for one reason. To get a virgin. To get a virgin, human, uncorrupted. To be able to bring Jesus into the earth as a man. [00:42:46] Speaker B: Yeah. So you can look at the Old Testament as a physical war between the sons of God and. And the devil's sons. You know, put that another way. In the New Testament, it's a spiritual one. And it's a one for one comparison. It's pretty much lines up right on top of each other. Don't really have to explain that it lines up. The allegory lines up so clearly. But so you can see that God made humans and they're supposed to grow up in the garden with him and become like him. They'll get out of the garden. Okay. He saw the plan from the grop and still to take their place. He still wants humans to. To take their place up here. Okay. With Christ. That's on the right hand side. Right hand side. The Father that was on your left hand side. But. And that's what he wants. And. But they messed up so bad that God was grooved. Even created man. And to wipe him out. Why? Because there's so much DNA trading. They're no longer human anymore. If God put his spirit in them because putting his spirit into think we are trailed. We could call them aliens. Other beings, other gods, other watch angels, sons of God. Other beings were traded and would become something different. And these different. They carried the natures of these people. So they wanted more and more spiritual powers. They did more and more wicked things. The more wicked it is, the more blood you sacrifice. The more innocent the blood you sacrifice, the more power you get. And God's grief. So he wiped it out. But it was Noah who was still human enough you know to carry on the human line. It says Noah's pure these generations. And they started again. Okay. What started with Noah and out. And then he gave him gods. But those gods didn't do the right thing. Right? I'm gonna have my own people and I'm gonna govern them directly. Okay? Hence no idols, nothing like that. I'm just gonna know you directly. No pictures of me, no statues of me. Just me straight to you. No. No separation. And I start with Abraham. And Abraham's process of this new nation starts with a promise. A miracle child. Because it can't come through this fleshy line. You know. He's starting with a newly begotten child. So Abraham has Isaac and Isaac, Jacob, Jacob the 12. And he wants them to stay separate from the other nations. Because the other nations are doing wicked things. Which is why Israel sent to wipe them out. And you could see the wicked things they were doing. Like we think now like oh, God wants genocide. If you could see the wicked things they were doing you'd be like wipe those people out now. And somebody said wipe them out and their cattle out. Which means they were doing stuff with animals. As well. Okay. And you just have to just go watch some guy who does Christian guy that does sex trafficking and he can tell you what he found. And you'd be like, wipe those people out. It's beyond beyond. You don't even go down there. Is it Troy Brewer? Is that the guy? When he first saw what they're doing, he threw up. [00:46:01] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:46:01] Speaker B: And. And ran and grabbed his kids and locked his house, like. And that's just his first run, let alone the worst stuff. Worst. The worst. And so because they are messing up DNA and terror. And so God had said, you need to keep separate from those people. So the juice get all these rules. So the law is given to protect the body. The law is given when it says, so you be holy and stuff is so their DNA. So it says, don't intermarry. We're like. In our mind, we're like. Is that like genetic elitism? No, no. What God's doing is having a group of people who are still remain human enough to receive the Messiah. Yeah. So I must obey the law, which includes rest, you know, and all these other things. So all the feast days and all the prophecies and everything's to keep them under the law, not be under the law, but be separate. They had to be so separate in. In reality and in metaphor that they couldn't mix their cloth, they couldn't mix this, their crops. They couldn't put wool and linen together like they were a prophetic declaration to stay human. Okay. Enough to receive the Messiah. And when they didn't, they got punished. And then the northern 10 tribes got so far from Yahweh that God removed them all. We end up with just Judah and Benjamin, where we get the term the Jews from Jews from the tribe of Judah, because they're the only ones left. That's why we call them the Jews these days, not Israel. And then they were. They started mixing things in Solomon, meaning the brought in idols. Then we have good kings and bad kings and good kings and bad kings. And finally there's too many bad kings. God removes them from their land and sends them into Babylon. And then as prophesied, Daniel was in Babylon. He reads Jeremiah. He's reading Jeremiah and Babylon. He goes, oh, we're going back in 70 years. And they. They come back and they start again. They start giving the real, like, boost of, like, energy. Ezra's pretty intense about keeping everyone pure, give us what we have to do. And then all the prophecies and all these things, all the punishments and all the in and out is all to produce Mary. Because Mary is a human being that's human enough and of the right heart to receive the Messiah. She's chosen to have all humanity. Like Noah was chosen. She was chosen. And you can trace her lineage and, and also Joseph's lineage. Not that's important in that regards, but that she receives the Messiah. And so Jesus gets his human DNA from Mary and he's fully God, fully man, and he has to carry and represent us properly. And so Mary is human enough for Jesus to have her humanity. So there's a body you prepared for me, that's Jesus talking about his own body. Okay. The body actually comes from Mary. That's the DNA comes from. So all the Old Testament, it's a big war and everyone's into Israel with the tribes. Other gods will get into Israel and mix them up and Israel has to keep pushing out and have land. And sometimes Israel is called to wipe out people completely. And sometimes I don't wipe them out completely. When they don't wipe me out completely. You can look at that tribe, you can look down the history and people who are causing them trouble like 20 generations later are from those people, you know, and they're all trying to get in and get their, their gods in and their DNA in. And so God in dealing with them relationally but very strictly is there to keep them pure. That's what the law is for. They follow the law to be, to be separate from all this other nonsense, this trading like being with beings, giving yourself to beings physically ceremonial, giving yourself to beings. All the other terrible things that happen with that, that mixes up your DNA. And Dan and Ephraim did that as Jews and the longer Jews. And then the 12 tribes got lost as well and finally left just Judah and Benjamin and some Levites and then whoever escaped into Jerusalem, into Jerusalem from the other 12 tribes, 10 tribes, that's who we have now. And then they. That's where Mary comes from and Samaira receives the Messiah. And so Jesus is human enough to receive that. And then he can represent us as before heaven for humans and undo the work of Adam. Yeah. [00:50:36] Speaker A: You talk about we don't have time to go into all these fights, but God chose to pick a fight and Jesus chose to pick a fight and the disciples chose to pick a fight. And then we, the saints need. Need to get to pick a fight. Maybe touch on, however you want to touch on those things. But I was thinking specifically about that Egypt, you know, God's going into Egypt for a specific reason. You already mentioned that the. The plagues and those specific gods. But you know, talk about thing. We got about 10, 10 minutes or so left. [00:51:16] Speaker B: So remember this, this is always happening. [00:51:18] Speaker A: Y. [00:51:19] Speaker B: So some of these, the Egyptian ones, their time was up. He didn't always. He had to wait for their time to be up. So Moses is going around, he said, Moses, wipe out these people. These people. But walk around the Amicolites because their sin's not full yet. It's not. So they've made a decision making wipe out these people. These people. But the Amicolites, they're God, they're not wicked enough yet. They don't deserve judgment. But then later tells Joshua, go take out those guys their sins now full. I hope I've got those names right and those dates right. Okay, so what God's doing, these other gods have not done what he said. And. And so he uses Israel to physically take out those gods. And all the gods are attached to certain land. He takes out that land and takes out those gods, okay? And then. And that's what he's doing through all the Old Testament Israel effectively foul that by the end. And they're owned by Greece, which was very bad, and I'm by Rome, which was very bad. But through that there's enough people with good heart to a remnant, shall we say, to receive the Messiah. Then Jesus comes and then Jesus goes to pick a fight too. So he goes to all these places. So he goes to Mount Hebron, okay. He goes to Bashan and yeah, they go there. As he's walking there, the demons come and say, we know you are some of the Most High. Okay? We know who you are. You're. You're. We know you are. You're this guy's son. You're the son of the Most High. Not this guy's son. This guy's son. Because these had sons. They had Nephilim and giants, okay? So Hercules is the son of Zeus interbreeded with humans. Everyone's got the same stories, okay? Every culture has the same stories from this region, okay? That there's gods and half gods and demigods and interbred with human gods, you know, and so Jesus is walking around and like, we know who you are, son of the Most High. Are you here to torture us before our time? Because there's a judgment that's been said in here that we. These guys are going to get done, you know, and they're these another class of being. These are the spirits of the unclean spirits or demons are just this. Are these spirits of the Nephilim and the giants that were wiped out and they're just disembodied looking for a body and they're attached to that land, you know, so, so Jesus comes along then goes up to he, I believe he transfigured on, on, on Mount Hebron. And that's what, that's what the angels came down and into bread. So he goes top of that and transfigures and that, that's where he is when he says and the gates of hell will not prevail. That's the gate of Hell. That's where humanity. And then the little grotto there was still there to this day, called the Gate of Hell. And when the, when the Greeks found that they're like this belongs to Pan, they knew what it was like this is Pan's place, you know, so even the Greeks knew what that place was. You can still go there now and see that little grotto and Mount Hebron and mountains in, in Israel. Just hills from our thinking but this. And yeah, just walked around and caused lots of problems and then obviously died, went down to heaven and, and led captivity, captivity, captivity captive, you know, in the procession of, of victory. And then it's up to us to do it. So you can see that the, all the Christians stayed in Jerusalem. So it was a diaspora. Like they got punished and they spread out which they supposed to in the first place. And Paul went around and Paul goes around to all these nations and all these other people groups and you can trace who they are and he preaches the gospel to them. He says, like you've had other gods and God has, the God has accepted that till now, but now he says all men to come through his Son. And that's what we're doing now as well. As the gospel goes out, the good news replaces all the other trading with these gods because only if someone has to pay, you only have power in the spiritual realm. You want thing answered. These other gods, they trade with you, you know, give me something, I'll give you something. They're fickle, they're cruel and, and. But now God's replaced them with direct access to his son. That's all we're telling the nations. You know, these God you worship like we, we call them demons. They're not necessarily demons. Some might be, there might be other things. Might actually be German lowercase G gods, Elohim. But God's saying, hey, you can go direct to the Father. Now even Jesus said you can go direct to the Father. You have to talk to me. You go Direct to the Father. Now through me, you can go direct to the Father. And we're restoring that relationship to all humanity. So we're undoing Tara Babel and what was recorded in Jeremy 32. We're undoing that because Jesus undid all the things that happen from Genesis 1 to 12. He's undoing it all. And, and that's what's happening now. So that's what we're doing and that's what the Bible records we're doing. So Ephesians says that's what we're doing before the principalities and powers. We're displaying God's wisdom and that's this. We're carrying out this judgment. So some of these guys try to take power themselves. They tried to come up here and sit on his throne, okay. And we're getting it through a promise. They try to take it by their own strength and they got in trouble and they're judged and everything they wanted to do and be, we're going to do and be that right in front of them in relationship. And that's their judgment. And we have to wait till the future to do that. We do that now by taking our place on the earth and preaching the good news of Jesus Christ that you can be righteous and have relationship through God, through the work of God alone. Because the other gods, you have to work for them, you have to trade with them. But Christianity is a gift, a gift of the person of Jesus Christ. And through a free gift of believing with no trade at all except giving up your old life, I guess give up your death for, for the life of Christ, you can have everything they fought for and tried to steal. And, and that's part of God's judgment on them. That's part of the judgment of the angels that Paul says we'll take part of, we'll judge them for that on Christ's throne. [00:57:48] Speaker A: And that, my friends, is the gospel of the kingdom. [00:57:54] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. We're not just waiting $go to heaven. We're actually taking part in that. In that situation right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:58:03] Speaker A: It's huge. Huge. We're not victims. We're not just sitting around waiting to get raptured out of here and God destroy the evil. And I just want to kind of end on this point and then I'll let you have the last word, Chris. But I mean, it's key, key, key piece of this understanding is God chose this way of doing things. This is God's idea, God's plan, God's way. That, meaning this divine council in this family and then sons. Seated at his right hand is his, the son who's the head of his body, which is us. This is his plan. This is his way. And we need to be redeemed. When we need to renew our mind, we need to be transformed by the renewing of that mind. We need to be careful about what our eyeballs are looking at and what our ears are listening to. And the mindset on the flesh, on the carnal, the five senses leads to death. The mindset on the spirit leads to life. This is a real deal. And we're so easily distracted by this thing right here. This phone's awesome. I listen to all of Chris's things on it. I'm driving down the road. It's awesome. Chris says it all the time. Technology is not bad, but it's the motive, the heart, the thing, and what are you doing with it and all that. And that's the enemy's using it. He's after our eyeballs, our ears, our heart. He wants our emotions as Chris talks about. Because when he gets that emotion, that's it. He's in. And suddenly we're putting on display his nature. Our father accidentally shifted to this other nature. Self centered, fear based, self preservation, self protection. And the fruit of that. We're looking at it and everybody's looking for the answer. And the answer's right here in front of us. But we lack the knowledge. We weren't taught the full gospel. We didn't see. All this stuff is literal. Literal little G gods. It all makes so much more sense when you see this and you can see it for yourself. Guys, seek, knock, ask, seek the kingdom first. If you're not seeking that first, you're seeking comfort, pleasure, or just pacificate, whatever. I don't know, some of them. That's another thing we didn't get into. Knockburst. Shut up, because I'm gonna get going here. But Abraham had to come out of his father's house and his land and his culture come out. Yeah, our culture wants to suck us back. No, just keep doing the same old comfort, comfort, comfort thing. Ah, it's just, you know, I get as mad as Chris does over all this stuff and a lot of people are mad right now. My son's one of them. He's fired up, ready to go. Just. Let's get something done. Wait a minute. Yeah, let's get it done. The way the capital T and capital W. The way Jesus's way. Yeah, him in us, us in him. In the third round, seated at the Right hand God. What. How do you want to get this done today? And he'll speak and he'll show you. And then you do that. That's what Jesus did. He only said what he heard his father saying. Only did we saw his father doing. And that's what we're supposed to do. But when you see the bigger picture and the whole thing like Chris is laying out, it just aha, aha, aha moments. Come revelation. Truth written on your heart. That's what God told David. Go ahead and build that temple if you want, but your descendant is going to build a. A spiritual house. And I'm writing my law, my truth on their heart. Hopefully you're getting some truth, but the truth written on the hearts by the Holy Spirit. Not by Chris Blackaby, not by Ben Edwards, not by Dan Moeller, not by Curry Blake. All these are great teachers. I benefit from all these guys. Love these guys and. But the Holy Spirit's got to write it on your heart. So ask him to do that. He knows what you need in this very moment. Whatever doubt and unbelief, whatever question mark you have, he'll reveal it to you through his word. But his spoken word, Holy Spirit spoken and the written both. He'll show you. He'll unlock these things. So a lot of seeds planted here. If you had any questions or. Wait a minute, what about that? We didn't even mention the Book of Enoch, but we. Chris does in his. And he says it so well, he's not saying it's scripture, he's just saying it's true. And it was quoted by. I don't know, I think Jude and Peter. Jesus. [01:02:21] Speaker B: Paul refers to it, Peter refers to it, John refers to it, Jude quotes it directly. [01:02:27] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:02:27] Speaker B: It's their worldview. They're not saying it's scripture. I'm saying scripture refers to it as a proof text. [01:02:35] Speaker A: Yeah. So like, like we said at the beginning, there was a worldview that the Old Testament guys knew, the New Testament guys knew, Jesus knew, Paul knew, the disciples knew, even some of the first church fathers knew. And we don't know it. And we're in a season now of a lot of things being revealed, both in the dark side, but in the light side. More lights coming, more truth, more aha moments. And this is a big piece of it, guys. And all of creation is waiting for the sons of God. [01:03:03] Speaker B: Yeah. To mature and present themselves. [01:03:06] Speaker A: Yeah. That's the solution, guys. That is the solution to sex trafficking, to. To all the corruption you see everywhere, pharmaceutically, in the government and International stuff going on, all this collusion and corruption that we just. Here's the solution. Was presented a piece of it today. Keep digging, keep seeking. Chris, I'll give you the last word. Thank you for being with us today. [01:03:30] Speaker B: Yeah, thank you. And for everyone, that's a very quick interview. Rough covering, I would say. You want to go deeper, Just find. Find Michael Heiser. He doesn't do the complete sonship understanding, but certainly addresses this worldview. I found those verses of the. The recording, the devil falling. So when someone talks, when God talks to the king of a nation, he's also talking to the God of that nation. And so Ezekiel 28, 11, 19, and also Isaiah 13. Yeah, Isaiah 13, you can read in there, you can see God addressing beings. He's addressing a king, but then he's. Then he slides into there, the being that they worship at the same time. Because obviously things which are impossible, except it's a God in there. I'm not saying we're gods, little G gods, okay? You don't want to be a little G God. Little G Gods get capital J judged. We are of capital G God. We're not him, okay? We're of Him. So I'm not my parents, but I am my parents. There's nothing in here that's not my parents, okay? I'm my parents, but I'm not my parents. I'm of my parents. Am I my parents? Yes, but I'm not my parents. I'm of my parents. And that's how you understand God. You're of God, okay? So you're not. You're not little G God, okay? You're not capital G God that created you, but you're of him, okay? So that's. That's better than being a little G God. So only the new age and all that, they can only offer you little G gods because that's what they're trading with to be a little G God yourself. And that's no good, because they're still inside creation. But capital G gods, it's outside creation, in the spirit, and you're of him. And that's what Christ has given you. And all these things, they can only have access to you if you have fear. Because by fear you held captive to the devil. And fear of fear of death, financial death, emotional death, relationship death, opportunity death, any fear. And then if they create fear for survival, you will go where they go. Unless you do this, you will die financially, physically, emotionally, opportunity wise, business wise, career wise. But you have put in your lot with God and you don't fear death because you've died with him, arisen again and he is your source and you rest in God's character alone. So if things happen to you and a fearful situation comes individually in your life or corporately as a nation or all over humanity and you haven't been a good Christian and you haven't tied, you haven't read your Bible, it doesn't matter because God is better to you than your ability to hear him or obey him in that day. Just make a call in his goodness. My lot is with God, you know, he's the God that delivers from fire. If he doesn't deliver from fire, he's still the God that delivers from fire. That's who he is. And I'm at rest with Him. I am making my home with him and these people and, and he is my provision and he will look after me. Don't look at. And if you have done a lot of tithing and reading the Bible, don't look at that for your supply. That's such a lower version than God's nature himself. That's good. Well done. It's done you well. But you don't take it to God for why he should give stuff to you. That's a trade like we do with lower eloms when we go to God, we make a call on his character alone. You're the God that's good to the wicked. You're the God that's good to his children. You're the God that's good to all. I'm going to be with you. I'm at rest. You foresaw this. You're not surprised I'm with you. And then fear won't govern your decisions and you won't take on the words or the chemicals of other people. And having said that, I'm not against medicine. Like you know, I've got a big bag of supplements here. So I'm not against it. I'm just saying everything in its place. It's not my source of life. Christ is my source of life. And that's supplements are taken from me. My role on the earth won't change in my ability to perform. It won't change. And my place of the sun won't change. Same as money's taken from me or access to certain areas is taken from me, or reputations taken from me. It doesn't change my ability to do what God asked me to do. And that's. And all I care about is his opinion. But Jesus says I judge correctly because I judge for the glory of another person, which is God. And that's you. You. You live for his glory. You're gonna be fine. And rest in his goodness, which is completely separate from your goodness. Yeah, it's a piece. Yeah. [01:08:34] Speaker A: Yeah. And that's what Jesus, the Prince of peace, came to deliver. True peace and joy. The kingdom's not about food and drink, righteousness, peace and joy. All right, Chris, I'm sorry. I could keep going, but we better wrap it up. [01:08:52] Speaker B: Yeah, we rushed through some big topics, but there's lots out there. Yeah, so I'm re recording the Fire Force of Genesis because I just ripped it from the hit on that. On that one that you saw because it was just so urgent because of what was happening in the world with DNA situations. And so I'm going to re record it this year. Much more modularized, much, much more deliberate. So that won't be the end of the year. That will come out. We're going to do it really well. [01:09:21] Speaker A: Awesome. Well, guys, you can go to as he is Ministries on YouTube and I think that's the name of the website also. Yeah, I just go to the playlist, but there's lots of good. There's shorts, there's all kinds of stuff. [01:09:34] Speaker B: But that playlist, Instagram, tick tock. [01:09:38] Speaker A: Awesome. So y' all go follow Chris Blackaby As He Is Ministries. Chris, thank you so much for being with us again. Can't wait to have you back. [01:09:46] Speaker B: Pleasure. Thank you. Ben, good to see you again. [01:09:48] Speaker A: Yes, sir. All right, everybody, I'm Dr. Ben Edwards. Another episode of you're the Cure. We'll be back next week with another great show. Bye bye.

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