The 70th Week of Daniel 9 | David Nikao Wilcoxson

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Hey, everybody. Welcome to another episode of you're the cure. I'm Dr. Ben Edwards. We're going to continue on our journey here in 2026, getting into some, what could be called some potentially hot topics, controversial topics, and not with the intent to cause controversy or division. You know me, I'm completely against division. When Jamie Winship came on the podcast and said everything's kingdom or empire, that's it. An empire is all about fear and, and division, and the kingdom's all about love and connected. So my topic today, guaranteed, automatically, could potentially, if you're just going to barely use your, your soulless ears to listen, could make you mad. I, I mean, I think 90 plus percent of listeners probably aren't, wouldn't agree with what we're going to say right at the top of this, but hopefully by the end, we'll at least be intrigued enough to go dig. Pray, ask Holy Spirit to lead you into all truth. Study the scriptures. Search those scriptures out. But I am warning you, this is a little bit. It took me a little while, but I have peace in my heart about this. And I just want to say this. Our battle's not flesh and blood. This isn't, you know, Ben Edwards. And it's not about being right and wrong either. That's a tree of knowledge of good and evil. And so getting sucked into that thing left versus right, red and blue and pro and anti, whether that's vaccine or film, the topic that's just getting us in this division category. And that's not what my intent is today. My intent, like last week's intent, was focused on our mental health. We've got to have a foundation of truth for the times we're in. And I think everybody can see these are not normal times. People may want it to try to get back to quote, unquote, normal times. There were never normal times. We just didn't see all this corruption before. And so to just wish things would get back to those good old days. Nope, they weren't good old days. Actually, all this has been going on, this con, these conspiracy theories, they're all rooted from the same one root. That's the devil. And that conspiracy started in the garden. Now it has lots of different ways it's manifesting and looking right now, but we got to look beyond. We've got to, we've got to learn to discern the schemes. And these counterfeits and a counterfeit 20 bill and a $20 bill look exactly alike. So we've got to ask for wisdom and discernment and also also want to say we're going to get into a lot of factual knowledge out of the Bible today and it might even get a little complex. Hopefully not. Our guest has a great way to explain things but this isn't just about gather a bunch of facts and knowledge either. We do need knowledge. My people are destroyed from lack of knowledge. But we've got to have under ask for understanding of that knowledge and then ask for wisdom and revelation. The Holy Spirit writing truth on your heart and aha moment. So it's this is a process of gaining more and more and more understanding wisdom revelation with the intent of growing spiritually so we're not knocked around just knocked to and fro back and forth and double minded and just have no foundation. And then in the mental health issues come and stress and division and all that and all that's the enemy. And then last thing I want to say, maybe we can mature up to be walking in every spiritual gift and every spiritual thing and just so mature but without love. It says we're a clanging gong. My wife reminds me of this all the time in love that Ben, you can go learn all this stuff, read all these books, gather all this information whether it's medical truth, world truth. I'm read a book right now the roots of the Federal Reserve. But the subtitles tracing the nephilim from Noah to the US dollar full of amazing stuff just and it's it reminded me our battle's never flesh and blood. It's always spiritual forces in the heavenly realms. And our weapons are not carnal, they're of God. That means of spirit. And we can have every spiritual mature blessing. But if we don't have love clanging gong. So I don't want to be a clanging gong today. I don't intend to get into intellectual and theological debate today. I know this could come out totally from left field for some of y' all because you haven't heard what we're going to talk about today. Possibly probably so I'm just humbly gonna say just sit back, try and and listen, pray and seek the scriptures. And I'll confess I could be wrong. And I think David Wilcox and our guest today, he could be wrong about things. We don't all have it figured out. David doesn't have it all figured out. I don't have it all figured out. But together as the body in and that's another thing. Jesus is the head of his body. It's one body, one spirit, one baptism. And I think we have one ministry called the Ministry of Reconciliation. Reconciling us back to the Father. I think back to the Father's original intent, his original plan in the garden. He had an original intent plan of creating mankind. And we need to be praying and asking to show what is that? Because the, the Lamb was slain from the foundation of the world. If he slayed the land before he even made the world, but he made man to be in the world. What is this plan? What was this all about? So there's just we need to be humble. The word for repent in the New Testament, Metaneo, I think is how you say it means be willing to go beyond your thinking, change your mind. So a humble heart, Holy Spirit led writing truth on your heart with the willingness to change your thinking from what it used to be. That's what repent means. So with that being said and with a heart and motive of love, David Wilcox, and welcome to the show. [00:05:58] Speaker B: Thank you, thank you for having me. I appreciate it. [00:06:01] Speaker A: Well, we're going to talk Bible stuff and automatically I know my listeners are going to say, well who is he, where'd he go to school, what, what ministry is he with, what churches, what's his credentials? Basically, which I'm not knocking that we. But introduce yourself a little bit. We're talking revelation, we're talking rapture, we're talking end time stuff, but with a different angle. But just introduce yourself to the audience and we'll get right into it. [00:06:31] Speaker B: Well, haven't been to seminary, haven't been to Bible college, just regular person but kind of like been talking to you and understanding all the deceptions in this world, whether it's financial, whether it's false flags, whether it's, you know, all the different health and wellness, there's so many deceptions. Significant events like 9 11, different things took place. And up to that point I was in Baptist churches, Calvary Chapel, churches. I understood Baptists don't really talk that much or they didn't talk much about revelation and stuff. So it wasn't a lot of prophecy. But when I went to Calvary Chapel then they were talking about prophecy and stuff. And yeah, I think after 9 11, you know, and just having my. The Spirit took me down a path of waking me up to all these different deceptions. 9, 11 being something that was odd in my brain and it didn't fit and I didn't understand what was going on in this world but I knew it was a significant event and that caused me to say, okay, I want to study prophecy, I want to understand where we're at, in the timeline, you know, what's going on, what's the truth? And so, you know, going to Calvary Chapel, we've been taught, you know, through the years of, you know, the seven year tribulation made by the Antichrist, we might know who it is at that point, we might not. You know, there'll be three and a half years of peace. At the midpoint, the Antichrist will enter the temple, desecrate the temple, proclaim to be God, and then there'll be three and a half years of great tribulation during which most of revelation, prophecies, seals, trumpets and bowls will be fulfilled. So that's the, that's the script that I knew. So I'm like, okay, let's do research on that, let's prove that out. And so my mind was like, okay, what's the, what is the seven years based on what passage? And that led to Daniel mine and the study of Daniel mine. So that's kind of, you know, how I started and, and the mindset I took in just wanting to know truth and just believing like everybody else, you know, about the, the normal explanation that we all kind of understand. So. [00:08:35] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:08:35] Speaker B: Does that make sense? [00:08:37] Speaker A: Yes, it does. That's really good. And actually, as you were saying that it reminded me, it's kind of unrelated but related because I, I just told a patient the other day to eat intuitively, that they want a real specific diet. Give me the diet, exactly what they don't eat, mostly don't what, you know, what a list. And when I, I heard myself say that eat intuitively, it took me back. I've been doing more integrative for about 14 years. So it took me back probably 13 or 12 years to a girl named Anna here in Lubbock. And if you're listening, shout out to you. But Anna was a health coach basically. So not a doctor, not a nurse even, not medically trained. And, but she knew I'd made this switch. So she's real sweet. And, and she, she was talking to me about some things and she had me over for dinner and some other folks, but in that dinner she said, yeah, just teach my clients, eat intuitively. And in, in that moment 13 years ago, I'm thinking, intuitive, what does that mean? No, I need a list. I'm a doctor and I need to write and prescribe and all this stuff. And the point being, now I see exactly what she means. And, but she was naturally gifted in this from the Lord and intuitive and led by the Holy Spirit and just Taught people how to eat. But the point means she didn't have any degree behind her name. She didn't go to the school. The one that did go to the school and had the MD behind his name got taught by a system that got infiltrated in 1910 by the Abraham Flexner Report and the Flexner Report, which was endorsed by Carnegie and Rockefeller, took all the natural healing arts off the table. Naturopathic medicine, homeopathic. And my listeners know about this, We've talked about a bunch. But I'm just saying every doctor from 1910 and on has been trained under one system because one guy infiltrated that system. And maybe we'll get to this later or now if you want, but could have one guy. We need to be open in our heart and our mind to the possibility that a guy or two guys, but could be one guy, infiltrated the education system of pastors, I. E. Seminaries. We need to be open to that possibility because our enemy's a deceiver and he's. He's sneaky. So he could have done that. So therefore, from 1900 on, every single pastor could be preaching the same message. And that's why we're into four generations, five generations, whatever that is, of hearing the same thing over and over and over. So what we're going to talk about today could be totally new from a guy who's not in the system, just like Anna, who wasn't in the system and she was preaching the truth about health and wellness. And now these doctors are getting it and then everybody's going to listen to the doctor because it's an M.D. so I'm sorry, I'm going off on this tangent, robbing your time. [00:11:26] Speaker B: But that's a great analogy, though, because like you said, like, like if you looked at what the majority of doctors teach, just because they've been to school and they have a doctorate doesn't mean they're right. In fact, they're teaching false things. They might not know that, but that's how they've been trained. But it. But we know that it's not for our better health. So. So just like you can be an independent person and do your research and find out that, wow, what they're teaching is not good. Right? It's not accurate and it's not benefiting my health and it's detrimenting my health. It's the same thing in Bible prophecy. You can have every pastor teaching a certain thing. That in itself doesn't mean that it's true. So you always have. You always have to test and prove things out. [00:12:10] Speaker A: Exactly. We're all called to do that. And honestly we should all be like the, like Anna. We should all be seeking the truth on health and wellness. We shall be seeking the truth in the scriptures and we can we have the spirit that raised Jesus from the dead, that lives in us and will lead us into all truth. So that being said, David, as you start seeking, where's this? Because the entire tribulation, pre Trib, post trips, rapture, Antichrist, seven years, it's all based in this seven year thing. And you mentioned it, you went to look for that and it takes you to Daniel. So I think we need to just go straight to there because if we can hone in on this 70 or this seven weeks or I mean seven years. I'm sorry, we'll get into that in a minute because it gets a little confusing. Weeks and years. But this whole thing, that's the foundation of this whole thing. So if that foundation disappears, then that whole pre trib post trip, all that goes away. So let's, let's let you just take it from there and tell us what you discovered. Yeah. [00:13:09] Speaker B: And I'll make suggestions for people like, like I would read all of Daniel mine. I mean, and the reason I say that is too many times we focus on Daniel mine 24 to 27. It's only four verses, but that is what gives us the 70 weeks of Daniel 9 prophecy in those four verses. And so that, that's what everybody focuses on. But to get the proper context, you need to read the whole chapter to understand what's going on. Daniel and the Jews are in Babylon. They've been taken captive. They're there for punishment for 70 years, which is interesting. Right? So it's 70 years because they weren't observing the land Sabbath. Right. And so they're. And for other reasons too. But that's, that's the basis of the 70 years of being there. And so the context of Daniel 9 is Daniel knows that that 70 years is about to end and he wants to know what's going to happen to my people. You know, I mean, here's our 70 year punishment. Now what? Because looking at Jerusalem, it had been destroyed by the Babylonians, so there's nothing to go back to. The temple is destroyed, the, the city is destroyed. What are you going to go back to? And so that's the question, that's the context. And if you read that, you know, understanding and he knows full well that the Jews got punished for a reason. And he looks around and and they got taken to Babylon. Well, Babylon is the center of the false pagan God religions. So Daniel's looking around and he's going, wow, my people haven't, for the most part, haven't repented, but they've gone further into the Babylonian mystery religion and believing false things, which they were already accused of by Isaiah and Jeremiah and all those things. They're actually worse off than ever. And so he's pleading for the heavenly father too, what's going to happen to us? And, and so that's the context. So then the answer comes in Daniel 9:24 to 27. And it's basically laying out, you know, The Jews have 70 weeks, right? And it lays out the timeline. So there's going to be 70 weeks to do this, this, and this. And then basically it's going to, I can summarize the timeline and we can expand if you want, but it's a period of seven weeks and then 62 weeks and then one week. So collectively that's 70 weeks. Seven weeks started the prophecy. It seems kind of odd to have 7 and 62. Why would they do that? But there's, there's definite reasons why it gets a little bit more technical, but the seven. So let me back up just to set the prep. The premise of it, it is starting with the command of someone who's going to allow them, the Jews, to go rebuild Jerusalem. So that's the starting point of the 70 weeks, right? And so that's taken. We're in the, what, sixth century, you know, and so. And going into the fifth century. And so that's the context. And so but it's pointing from a certain command for them to rebuild Jerusalem, which took place in the fifth century. And it's pointing to Messiah, the Prince. So that 70 weeks has the span from this command unto Messiah the prince showing up to carry out his ministry. So it's not pointing to 70 weeks, it's pointing to 77. So every week has seven days, right? And so if you have 77s, that's 490. So it's pointing to 490 days. But we can see how, applying that, it's prophetically pointing to one day equals one year. So it's pointing to a period of 490 years. So now you're going from the fifth century BC until when Messiah appears, which we know is the first. In the first part of the first century. [00:16:51] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:16:51] Speaker B: Does that make sense? [00:16:52] Speaker A: Yes, it does. So just in case the listeners didn't follow that 70 weeks of years. So do the math. 490. And pretty much everyone's in agreement that that on that math, that's what that means is 70 weeks of Daniel means is 70 weeks of years. 490 years and it will start, start the clock, start counting on your calendar when this decree goes out. So that, that's it. So this is so cool. And they're one of the coolest things. I mean I'm a geek on intellectual stuff and math and pro, you know, mathematical probabilities. [00:17:30] Speaker B: Right. [00:17:31] Speaker A: But if you could actually count this thing down. So what, what David's saying is this calendar has been set in this prophecy by the God given to Daniel. You're going to go back, you'll rebuild. It'll start here at the countdown. It's going to be 70 weeks of years. The controversy comes when on the last week do we go 69 whole weeks and then hit a big timeout pause button. [00:17:59] Speaker B: Right. [00:17:59] Speaker A: And it, and then just wait 2000 years into the future or does the 70th week commence? [00:18:05] Speaker B: Right. [00:18:06] Speaker A: Right after the 69th. That's the Crux of it. But go ahead back, back to you there. You can continue. [00:18:12] Speaker B: Yeah. Just to complete the timeline. So the 70, the seven weeks up front. Right. So seven times seven. So it's 400 or 49 years. Right. And so that was the time when they were released and they were empowered to go rebuild the city and temple. So that took place during that time. And we know in the Old Testament it says that was going to happen in troubles times. They were going to be opposed. And we can read through the Old Testament and see that the rebuilding of Jerusalem was opposed and, and different things. But so there's that 49 years and then that 400, the 62 weeks, this is what, 434 years. You know, there's about 400 years of silence from the last prophet until Matthew. Right. So it's just like a period of silence where it said, you know, follow these, the directions. And it's saying basically after the seven weeks and after the 69 or 62 weeks. So it's saying after. So Daniel 9:25 and Daniel 9:26 both say after this, the seven weeks and the 62 weeks. So that's 69 weeks. It's saying after that takes place, you know, after the start of the command, then Messiah the prince will appear. So it's telling us exactly when Jesus will appear. So it's one of the most profound prophecy. It's actually the only prophecy in the Bible that declares exactly when Messiah would appear. And when you read the New Testament, you can read whether it's the disciples, you know, when he's first starting gathering. And they were expecting, look, we found the Messiah, we found the Messiah, right? Why would they say that? Because they were expecting them. Because they knew the prophecy, because they knew that he was supposed to appear according to this prophecy. Even the Samaritan woman at the well said, well, when Messiah comes, so she knew that he was going to come, right? And so, so they understood the prophecy. They knew exactly that he would appear after the 69 weeks. And so, you know, I, I think maybe one of my gifts, if you will, is just being logical. Right? So when the prophecy says that Messiah is going to appear after 69 weeks are fulfilled, when does that mean he's going to be fulfilled? That means he's going to be fulfilled in the 70th week. And that's the week of controversy, right? So, so, so you just, look, so when I, I, in studying prophecy, you just take plain statements and go prove how that's true. Right? And so, okay, if it's saying the Messiah is going to appear in the 70th week, after the 69 weeks, how did that, how is that fulfilled? And so I won't get into depth on the years and stuff like that or who gave the command and all that, because that's explained in detail in like the video series that I have on YouTube and stuff, or the book, if you want the book. And you can get a free PDF copy of that or a print copy. But the command that started the whole thing was it took place in 457 BC by Arctic Xerces. Right? And so when you run the numbers and you go from 457 to and, and then you're going forward, it's 490 year prophecy. The last week is seven years. So 69 weeks is 483 years. So 457 BC plus 483, you land at 27 AD, right? Because there is no year zero. So you have to jump, jump from 1 BC to 1 AD so you land at 27 AD and so just generically speaking you go, okay, that would mean that the seven years of the 70th week took place from 27 to 34 AD. And when do people believe that Jesus died for our sins? Yeah, exactly. Right. So, so 27 to 34 A.D. people believed he died in 30 or 31. Right? So it kind of splits because there's the Jew, there's the scriptural calendar and the Roman calendar, but 30, 31, so it's right in the middle of the seven years of the 73 of Daniel. And so that for me, when I learned that, I go, that's an aha moment. I go in Daniel 9, 27 says, it says, and he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week. And in the midst of the week, so in the middle of the seven years, he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease. Well, when Jesus died on the cross, the Father tore the temple curtain into it's Passover. It's the day to sacrifice the Passover lamp. And so he died. The heavenly Father tore the temple curtain in two. So he's symbolizing that the need for temple animal sacrifices to atone for sins has ceased. Right? So the. So exactly what it said, because the sacrifice and oblation to cease. And so the Jews kept doing it. That who didn't believe him in Jesus, that was the Messiah, but they kept doing it until 70 AD. But the passage is just saying the need for it ended because that one time sacrifice paid for all of our sins. We don't have to sacrifice, sacrifice animals anymore. And I think that was just so huge for me. I'm like, okay, it's telling us exactly when he died in the middle of the seven years. When you run the numbers from 457 BC to the 70th week, the seven years would take place from 27 to 34. And we know he died in 30 or 31, which is in the midst of the week, in the middle of the week. That was like just a huge aha moment. And then you can apply, there's a whole lot more proofs. But I think that just woke me up and I'm just reading, you know, so read Daniel 9 and then read Daniel 924 to 27, which is the prophecy. And without any preconceived notions about it being about the end times or the Antichrist, just say to yourself, who is this about? Right? Who's it about? And so my conclusion was it's about the Jews and it's about Jesus. And that's it. You know what I'm saying? That's, that was all it's about. It was just 70 week in this time period, this is what's going to happen. But it wasn't. Nowhere in those verses, Nowhere in Daniel 9, nowhere in those four primary verses do I see an Antichrist or the end times. And in fact I'm logical. So what that means is if this prophecy, well, we know the prophecy is about Messiah coming to, to atone for our sins. It's pointing to him coming to carry out his ministry and die for our sins. Why would one prophecy in only four verses be about the pinnacle of human history, right? When Messiah died for our sins, why would it be about that and also about his enemy, the Antichrist? Like in my brain, that doesn't, that didn't make any sense in my brain, right? So, you know, I just boiled it when I just studied it and took it just as it reads, you see what it's about, it's about the juice and it's about Jesus and it's about, it's actually about, it's kind of pointing to. Daniel knew because you remember, Daniel got very distraught after this vision. He was distraught. Why was he distraught? Because there's things in the prophecy that point to the fact that, that the people who are the Jews would reject their promised Messiah because it points to him being cut off. And cut off indicates a violent death. And so Daniel understood that just like the Israelites had killed the prophets who were sent to them, he understood that they were going to kill the Messiah. He understood that that's what this is telling them. And so that's why he was so sad and he was so aggrieved and that's why he wanted more information. But he understood that, yeah, some are going to be safe like him. But you know, I mean, as people like him who are in covenant with the heavenly Father through faith. But he also understood that there was going to be abominations on the nation of, you know, Israel because they basically rejected the promised Messiah and delivered him up to be killed. And we see that whole story played out in the gospels where for the high priest, you know, the amazing thing, I love tie ins. And so like the high priest said, better than one man die. He's saying this prophetically, not because he understood what he's saying, but it was just still prophetic. He said, better for one man to die than for the nation to be taken away by the Romans, right? He's just like, you know, so, but, but, but he understood that it was better for one man to die, right? It was better for that one man to die. So the true nation of Israel, which is compromised, comprised of true believers, those who have a covenant relationship with the heavenly father through faith in his son. That's a true Jew. That's a true Israelite. So then the commonwealth of Israel, you know, can be established, right? Which is, which is the, that's who Daniel was, right? That's who Abraham was. That's who Isaac was. That's who Jacob was when he got, you know, when he came to faith in the Father, Jacob Israel got his name changed on that. And so that's what a true Israelite is. It's never been just a nation of physical people. The true Israel has always been the spiritual aspect, the people who have faith in, in the Heavenly Father. [00:27:45] Speaker A: Yes. And we can go through multiple scriptures in the New Testament about who are the true Jews versus the ones that say they're Jews, but. [00:27:53] Speaker B: Right, they're. [00:27:53] Speaker A: They're lying is what scripture says. Let's go back in Daniel because you mentioned this in your videos and guys, there's a great video series. How many is that on. On just the 70th week of Daniel. It's like 20 something. [00:28:06] Speaker B: Yes, 20 something videos. And to make it simple, it's not overly complex, but yeah, I mean they're 15 minute. [00:28:14] Speaker A: Yeah, 15 minute videos. Some less, some a little more, but multiple but just steps you right through it. And I was re listening to those. I've listened to them. I mean I first found you, David, years ago. I told listeners of last show or two ago in 2020 when everyone started waking up to health stuff. I'm. I'm sorry, diving more. And I went into all kinds of rabbit holes on Revelation. Lots of teachers, lots of stuff and then just prayed and this can't be this complicated if God's not a compl. I mean he's complex, but there's a simplicity this. But anyways, so I've been listening to these videos for a long time, got the book, read it multiple times and I encourage the listeners to do that and just real quick website and YouTube, the name of your YouTube page and. [00:28:58] Speaker B: Actually probably the best website to go to because I have different websites about. One about 70th week of Daniel, one about the Olivet discourse, one about revelation, but where I meet it all together and I give you the tools to learn to go down a learning path at whatever level you want is Bible Prophecy Decoded.com. so Bible Prophecy Decoded.com there, there's a learning path where you can print like a one page, one page summary of the 70th of Daniel. So all the things I'm talking about in this and that. Here's a one page summary. So I take you from a big picture view, right? And then you can get more complex. There's an overview video that'll give you more details and then if you want the full explanation, go through the videos, go through. You can request on that website a free PDF copy of the book. So you can read that online on your screen or you can order. I like printed copies. I like to mark it up. But you can do all that. But. So wherever you're at, you know, it gives you the. The path. And then from there you can learn about the Olivet discourse. From there you can learn about Revelation. So it gives you that path. But one thing to focus on. I was going to circle back. When you read Daniel 9, the whole chapter, what you see is that Daniel 9. 27 says, and he shall confirm the covenant. And so first of all he has to point back to the previous proper noun. So a pronoun has to point back to a previous proper noun. The only pre. Previous proper nouns in Daniel 9. 25, in Daniel 9:26 is Messiah. It can't be people and it can't be prince, because people make the Prince in Daniel 9. 26 about Titus or the Antichrist or whoever. But he can't point back to those words. It has to point back to the proper noun, which is Messiah. Messiah. So he shall confirm the covenant. Confirm. Confirm means that the covenant already existed. Right. And so you go, it's not a new covenant. It didn't say he's going to make a new peace agreement, says he's going to confirm the covenant. Well, the covenant already existed because the covenant is the everlasting covenant. And that's what's not taught in churches these days. Probably you mentioned all the covenants that are in the Bible, but Messiah came. The everlasting covenant with Abraham existed for a long time. And it was for those people who had faith in the Heavenly Father and sought to obey his commandments. And they made animal sacrifices to atone for their sins. And so when you read Daniel 9, what you see as he's pleading for the Heavenly Father to forgive them of their sins. But in Daniel 9. 4 he says, and I prayed unto the Lord my God and made my confession and said, Lord said, O Lord, the great and dreadful God, keeping the covenant and mercy to them that love him and to them that keep his commandments. So the Covenant in Daniel 9, like that's, that's what helps being logical. If there's a covenant mentioned in Daniel 9. 4, and then Daniel 9. 27 says that he shall confirm the covenant. Well, what covenant is talking about? Should we not think it's the same covenant that Daniel talked about in Daniel 9. 4? Right. And what is that? It's the covenant of mercy to them that love him and to them that keep his commandments. That's the Abrahamic covenant, right? Because that's how Abraham was saved. That's how Isaac, Jacob, all this people, Daniel, they believe by faith, they sought to obey the heavenly Father. That's the everlasting covenant. And there's proof verses in the New Testament, in Hebrews especially to tell us that Jesus died to confirm the everlasting covenant. So it's not, it's not talking about a new covenant, it's talking about the old covenant that had to be ratified. It had to be put into effect with his blood as the spotless passover lamb. [00:32:58] Speaker A: So yeah, it all, it all makes sense. And it's like the veil just you're, the scales fall off your eyes because it's all right there. And like you said, real logical. If that's the covenant he talked about earlier and there's the covenant and he will confirm it, he is the Messiah. And then there's going to be 70 weeks till this happens. He'll show up on this date and that date comes and people are looking for him because the prophecy said this is the year he will come. And boom, he comes halfway through the week. Boom, halfway through the week. He's on the cross. It's just, it's right there. And guys, the reason that this is so important is like we said at the top of the show, this whole thing about pre trib and post trib and mid trib, mid trib that they're talking about the middle of the week of this, this 70th week. I mean this whole debate about rapture and all this stuff is based on this 70th week that David has just explained being in the future, way out there, that it's not right after the 69th when everybody was looking for the Messiah and he actually showed up. No, the 70th week is really talking about something way off in the future. We better. What. And so anyways, that's why this is so important because it reframes the whole conversation. And David, you can comment on that, but also maybe we could go into Schofield or just how did this get set up? Or nobody's seeing this in the seminaries. [00:34:32] Speaker B: Well, just another logic point because that serves me well, it doesn't make sense in my mind for the Heavenly Father to give a 70 week prophecy if it's not fulfilled in 70 consecutive weeks. This is, you know, I mean, this is, it just makes sense in my brain why, why you could give a prophecy, but if there's a 2000 year time gap in a 490 year prophecy, then it doesn't make sense to call it a 70 week prophecy. Right? You just give a prophecy and not give maybe that definite timeline. So, so again, yeah, look, look to see how the 70th week was fulfilled after the 69th week. It only makes sense that they would be all in a row, right? [00:35:12] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. And it's just another out of many, many, many, many things, proofs you could point to in God's word of the supernatural, supernaturalness of the book. [00:35:27] Speaker B: Right? And, and that's exactly it. It provides. And that's why the enemy, and we'll talk about that, that's why the enemy is trying to hide it in these end times. Because it's like I said, it's the only prophecy that points to the exact time that he was going to come and die for our sins. I mean, it's pointing right at 30, 31 AD. Right, because you start at that 457 BC timeline, you go to the middle of the 70th week, the middle of the seven years, and it's right there. So it validates the Bible, it validates the deity of Messiah. And so it's a huge, it's not just about debating about prophecy and who's right or wrong. It's, it's a defense of the faith. And when you see it, for me, I go, that was very affirming to my faith. Not that I didn't believe, but when you see prophecy fulfillment, it's tangible evidence for what you believe. It's, you can look at that and go, wow. If we're told it from the 5th century BC to the year that he was going to appear and die for my sense I'm doing, that's. That to me is amazing. And that's how you prove to the world that the Bible is valid. Right? And that's, you know, even as sad as it is, it's even how you prove to a Jewish person that the Messiah already came. Right? Because here's the thing, and maybe people know this, maybe they don't, but they're forbidden to read Isaiah 53 because Isaiah 53 uses the exact language of him being cut off by his stripes. We're going to be healed. It points to him paying the, the price for our transgressions. When you read Daniel 9, 24, it talks about the transgressions and sins and making reconciliation for iniquity. Well, that's what Isaiah 53 is all about, right? So by his blood, by his stripes, we're healed. And then he paid for our transgressions and our sins and he made reconciliation for our iniquity. So Jewish leaders forbid Jews from reading Isaiah 53 and they forbid them from reading Daniel 9 so that they won't see the truth of the prophecy. And so if we have any chance to prove to a Jewish person that their Messiah has already come, it's by knowing this prophecy and understanding and showing them exactly how it pointed to him, you know, and getting them their interest up. So they read Isaiah 53, so they read Daniel mine, and they're forbidden to read the New Testament. So get them to read the Gospels, because in the Gospels they'll see the proofs that he was the promised Messiah. So there's a lot at stake for just knowing prophecy, you know, and, but as far as the deception, the, the. [00:38:09] Speaker A: Culture, I mean the books written left behind and I mean just so many preachers I can think of and I'm not here to just call people out, but I mean it's just a pervasive mindset or, or belief in this future thing with this pre trip pro and just all of it. How in the world could an entire multi generation of, of preachers and guys, this just reminds me when I started first got introduced Dr. Roby Mitchell, Dr. Fitz and people have heard the story a gazillion times. It just, I couldn't believe this doctor for a whole year. And one of the things I kept telling him is Dr. Fit, how could you be right and all these doctors be wrong? All these smart doctors that trained me at MD Anderson, Utah, Houston, Waco Family Practice, all the big institutions, American Diabetes Association, American Heart association, it's literally everybody is wrong, but you're right. You one little doctor up in Amarillo, Texas. It opened my eyes to this truth in medicine. And yeah guys, that's exactly the truth that he. And again, not about right and wrong, but there's just truth. So let's, let's talk a little bit about that. Not to disparage or to name call and all that. And I know that's not your heart, David. You do a great job in your videos of speaking truth in love, but also shining light of truth into where there's counterfeit or deception and not. And not saying with malice. If these guys are trying to obviously not try, I don't think trying to deceive people, but kind of speak to that a little bit. [00:39:49] Speaker B: Well, I mean, I mean you got to extend grace. I mean I was, I was misled for most of my life. So I get, I get why people are misled. I get why the narrative is so ingrained in their head through movies, through pastors, through all that stuff. And so, you know, I like it. All you can do is present the information and pray that the Holy Spirit moves in their life to show them truth about it. So but you know, when I, when I understood the fulfillment of the 70th week of Daniel after the 69th week, then just kind of like what you're talking about, like, like I was just like, okay, I believe I'm right. But how is that possible? Because all these people over here left behind movies, you know, Chuck Swindoll, David Jeremiah on the radio. I used to hear them. They used to teach on prophecy, Calvary Chapel, this is what they thought. I'm like, I believe I'm right. But they're saying the 73 is about the end times. I go where I know I don't understand. It didn't make sense in my head. I was just like trying to rationalize it, going, it doesn't make sense that, that I understand it. And then all these people are wrong, just like you're saying about doctors. And so that was another study that I did and trying to figure out what took place. And it really went back to the 16th century primarily where Jesuit priests rose to power. They were empowered at that time. They were empowered in the 16th century by the popes of Rome and they started the process. And, and they, it just means that they were Jesuit priests who had a built in motive to deceive the end time saints. And so a priest named Rivera was the primary guy and he wrote like a 500 page work. And I have a video about this that tells you all about it, but it's like a 500 page work. And basically what he did is he pulled different things together and he basically said, okay, you know, we're going to put the 70th week of Daniel and we're going to say it's not fulfilled and there's a time gap and here's why. And then we're going to put it at the end times and we're going to make that about the Antichrist. And you know, and then they built the whole, you know, scenario from there that we, that we understand. So it started with him, but in the 16th century. But by and large, the Protestant reformers knew the truth. Truth. They knew that wasn't true. They knew the 73 of Daniel was fulfilled. You can read the Geneva Bible, which was in the 16th century, and you read the study notes. So in the Geneva Bible there's study notes from some of the Protestant reformers and go look up Daniel 9, 24, 27, and you're going to see that they're telling you that it's about Jesus, it's about the Jews and it's about Jesus. And you'll see in the study notes from the 16th century, there's nothing about the Antichrist, there's nothing about the end times. It's all about Jesus coming to die for our sins in the middle of the seven years of the 70th week. So. So they didn't buy the deception that was created, but through a process of having another book written by another Jesuit. But he used the pen name that was Jewish as to make it more acceptable because people understood, like Jews. The Jesuits, I'm sorry, got kicked out of a lot of countries. They got in a lot of trouble. So people didn't really trust them. But if you wrote a book under a Jewish name, pen name, then it was more acceptable to a Christian. We'll say that that's what they thought. And so it went from there. It went to Maitland, it went to different people. But then it landed. The primary player in the US Is Scofield, Cyrus Scofield. And he came and he brought to the forefront the Scofield reference Bible. And that Bible was pushed by. By the enemy. And it was introduced to, like, Baptist churches, I think, latched onto it. They bought millions of copies to teach prophecy and this and that. So it just kind of took off from Scofield. But when I did my research, what's totally fascinating about Scofield is that he had a protege. And the protege, his name is Lewis Sperry Schaefer. And so Lewis was learning from Scofield so much, and they were just so tight, so much so that when Schofield died, he was a pastor of a church. When he died, Lewis Sperry Schaefer took over as pastor of his church. So that's how tight they were. And so later on, Lewis Sperry Schaefer and another partner went on to form a seminary, which became Dallas Theological Seminary. So now you got Schofield, who's preaching the futuristic narrative about a future 70 thick of Daniel going to Schaeffer, who now founded Dallas Theological Seminary. And so from there came Hal Lindsay, right, Of late, great Planet Earth. That was what, in the 70s, right? So he taught this, the futuristic narrative of the future 73 of Daniel Chuck Swindon was. He was a DTS graduate, and I think he was the chancellor or whatever at one point. David Jeremiah went to Dallas Theological Seminary. Right. Thomas Ice, Dr. Thomas Ice. Of Left behind fame. So the books and the videos or the movies about Left behind seven years, all that stuff. He went to Dallas Theological. So what you see is the primary teachers that we've had influence us over the last century went to Dallas Theological Seminary where they learned explanations about a false futuristic 70th week of Daniel. So I'm not saying those people did anything on purpose. It's just. But when you go to an exhaustive seminary like dts, you tend to blindly trust that what the professors are teaching is true. That's. I mean, why. I mean, it's a very esteemed seminary, so you're going to believe it's true, so you don't question it. So then you just regurgitate it and teach about it and all that stuff. So. So that's where it's gone. So think about how many people have been educated at DTS who now are pastors and write books and all that stuff, and they're all around the world. So then when we look and we go, well, how did this become so prevalent of a belief that's a really big part of the answer is Dallas Theological Seminar. And that was just an aha moment. Then I was like, okay, I see there's more to the story, but I see one of the main vehicles that they used to get this false narrative out there to deceive. Because what's the goal of the enemy, just like with health and wellness, just like with everything else, is to deceive the enemy, and especially in these end times. So that saints don't understand prophecy fulfillment. They're following a false script. They think they're going to be raptured out of here, you know, before the Great Tribulation or all that stuff. And they don't understand where we're at on the timeline. And not only that, they don't. They don't understand, like, what's left where we're at on the timeline and what's left to be fulfilled before Messiah returns. So they're kind of like the foolish virgins. You're flying blind. You don't have light. You don't have the light of scriptural truth guiding your path. You're following a false script. And that's not a good scenario. Right? So it's gonna. It'll get people in trouble. They might make wrong decisions based on their lack of understanding. And so it's just ever since that point, like when I. When I learned the seventh week of Daniel, I knew from that point that I had a responsibility. I go, this isn't just for me, I go, this is too big. This is way, way, way too big of a, of a deal. And it's not just for me. And I knew that I had a role to play and teaching and stuff. So, you know, to bring kind of that story full circle, you know, starting with who am I? And all this stuff. Thankfully, I didn't go to seminary and thankfully I didn't go to Bible college because most of those places are teaching the deceptions that the enemy created in the 16th century, which came then through Schofield and through Lewisbury Schaefer. Most, most seminaries are teaching that exact same thing. So those students get programmed with a false narrative. So I'm thankful that I didn't go down that road and get totally misled about that. [00:48:26] Speaker A: Yeah, well, so am I. You're. You're a gift to the body for sure. You mentioned the Geneva Bible in the. Some of the Protestant reformers. And I think if I'm remembering right, in some of your videos, you also talk about some other scholars I guess would be the best biblical scholars. It's in the 16, 17, 1800s with volumes like 2, 000 pages or more. But could you speak a little bit to that just for the listener who's. They're familiar with all the preachers names you just listed out of Dallas Logic. [00:49:03] Speaker B: Right. [00:49:03] Speaker A: But you know, pre those guys in the 1800s, there was X, Y and Z guys that we've never heard of, but they have thick, thick, thick books on the Bible. Could you go through some of that maybe? [00:49:15] Speaker B: Yeah, that's. That. That was one of the biggest blessings in my life that I got introduced to Sword Searcher software. And you can buy it. It's a, it's a software. You can buy a Sword Searcher and you can find these, these things online on studylight.org the commentaries and stuff. But Sword Searcher makes it easy. So you can look at Daniel 9, 24 and you, you can look at all the commentaries on that one verse, right. In a box. Right. So it's just easy access to the information. But the blessing is that the Holy Spirit just basically told me. I'm like, okay, how in the world do I know this stuff? But most pastors are believing something else. How is that even possible? And so basically the Holy Spirit told me, look to the people who taught, look to the theologians who taught during the 16th Geneva Bible. Right. But 16th through 19th centuries. So in other words, everything up to the last couple of centuries. Right. And so when I did that, that's when I found sorcerers or software. And people like Albert Barnes, I mean, these people wrote whole Bible. So like John MacArthur wrote like a whole Bible commentary, right? So he has a Bible with the notes, and then he did separate commentaries, I think, on every book. I'm not sure, but that's what these people did. So in the 17th, 18th and 19th century, without a computer, these people were so smart and so spirit led that they wrote Bible commentaries. And I mean, I'm talking. They're referencing this to this, to this, to this and this and this, all manually. And so it's Albert Barnes, Adam Clark, John Gill and Matthew Poole. Those are the primary four. There's the pulpit series, there's. There's others. You can read the Geneva Bible, all that stuff. [00:51:02] Speaker A: And. [00:51:04] Speaker B: When, again, when I would read passages like Daniel 9:24, none of those people from the 17th through 19th century applied Daniel 9:27, the 70th week of Daniel mine to the Antichrist or to the end times. They all said it's about Jesus Christ dying for our sins. It all is about pointing to exactly when he was going to do that in the middle of the seven years of the 70th, which week. And so that was just confirmation, you know, from going from how can I be right and all these people are wrong to going, oh, okay, I see it. So for from the 1st century until 19th century sometime, you know, that everybody believed that it was already fulfilled. And it's only been during the last few centuries that the deception has been taken hold. And Henry Gratton Guinness, one of my heroes of the faith, he was a preacher, evangelist, just. And he wrote a book called Romanism and the Reformation and History Unveiling prophecy. And he was fighting the fight. He was on the front lines of when the Jesuits deceptions were coming in from, you know, from Schofield and Maitland and all those people, they were. That that narrative was starting to take hold of the futuristic 75th of Daniel. And so he wrote those books, books to counter it, to fight against it. And I mean, if you understood where we're at today and the grand deception, it'd be. I'm sure it'd be sad, but. But he's someone I look to as comp. I had to go through a confirmation part. I knew what I believed. I. I believed it with all my heart that the 70th week was fulfilled after the 69th week. But there's so many voices over here saying, no, no, no. And then you read someone like him, you know, another esteemed theologian telling you, no, it's all about Jesus Christ. It's nothing to do with the Antichrist. That's a deception from the enemy. So the, the information's there for you to pursue and you can go through. I have overview videos, video series and all that stuff. You know, dig as far as you want to dig, but the information is there. It's just that the enemy has done an effective job at hiding it so that nobody questions the narrative because we all believe the same thing. And so, you know, it's just a grand deception to fool us in the end times. [00:53:26] Speaker A: Yeah, well, I think that's important for people to, to realize and understand that, that there's been Bible scholars for a long, long, long time, multiple hundreds of years seen it, everyone's seeing it, everyone agreeing. And then this thing comes in, sneaks in, and boom, it's infiltrated. And again, guys, just want to reiterate. If you've just been kind of a superficial or cursory kind of observer on end times and revelation, maybe you haven't even read it or don't understand it. We're not even talking revelation, we're talking Daniel in this very specific prophecy. And then David mentioned all of it discourse. And real quick, guys. And we're running out of time, can't get into it really, but just want to set this up because that's basically a series of verses it's in. Recorded in Matthew, but there's also a version I believe, Mark and Luke, if I'm not mistaken. [00:54:17] Speaker B: Luke 21. And. Yeah, Luke 21, Mark 13. [00:54:20] Speaker A: Yep. So this is a series of passages. Matthew, Mark and Luke all reiterate a little bit differently, but basically the same. And it's Jesus himself. He had just got done telling the Pharisees all these Jewish corrupt leaders. I mean, basically grilling them, just letting them have it and then. And telling them, you know, this temple's coming down, this whole thing's gonna burn, you know, you know, y' all are toast, basically. And then the disciples are walking off with them. Man, Jesus, that sounds pretty bad. And hey, can you tell us when this is going to happen so we can like get out of dodge kind of deal? And so Jesus goes on to say, well, here's when it's going to happen. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And again. And we only have five minutes, David. So I, I'm just throwing this out for the listeners. Say, hey, guys, there's this, this is a big thing. The all of it discourse is a big thing. And what Jesus said, when is that going to happen? And David I'd love to have you back. And maybe we can go through that because it is big. It is really big. Especially if Jesus says it's about to happen. Like before you die, it's going to happen within this generation. It's going to happen. That's a whole huge revelation. [00:55:32] Speaker B: Right. [00:55:32] Speaker A: You know, there's an if there, if that's true, if that's what he said. [00:55:36] Speaker B: Right. [00:55:36] Speaker A: So there's that peace and. And then the book of Revelation obviously is what people think about on end times. And that's a whole nother series of videos. That's. That's just a whole nother story. But Those are your three big ones in my mind. 70th week of Daniel, get the truth of that, all of it, discourse. When Jesus tells the disciples, here's when Jerusalem's going down and this whole thing's going down, and then the Book of Revelation, that's all. So those are the three big pieces. How I see David, but how do you see that? And we will wrap it up and love to have you back to get into more of these things. [00:56:08] Speaker B: Yeah, we can talk about it in more detail. But the tie in is when you read Daniel 9, 24, 27, Daniel 9, 26 points to the city, Jerusalem and the sanctuary being destroyed, right? And then Daniel 9, 27 points to abominations and, and judgment, basically. So there's the tie in. So in other words, this is why Daniel was sad. He knew that it was telling. It was telling him this prophecy was telling him that Jerusalem, they were going to be empowered to go rebuild Jerusalem, but then it was going to be destroyed, which is a really, really bad thing. That, that desolates the Jewish nation again, because if you don't have a city, you don't have a temple, you don't have a nation. And so he understood that. So there's the prophecy right there. And so that's exactly the context of Messiah's Olivet discourse. So in Matthew 23, he rebuked the Jews and he told them, he said, just like you kill all the prophets, your people killed all the prophets that we sent before you. And they were going to kill him just like that. Judgment's going to come upon you in this generation, right? And then he walks out and they're looking back at the temple and the disciples are pointing it out, how beautiful it was and all that. He said, I assuredly it'll be destroyed. And so they wanted to know the context. So what he just proclaimed in Matthew 23 that judgment was going to come upon that generation of Jews who would go on to deliver him up to be killed, who said, we have no king but Caesar, who said, you know, let his blood be on us. That's what they, that's their statements. And so it was. And so that's the context of the Olivet discourse, which goes Back to Daniel 9:26, that the city and the sanctuary were going to be destroyed because of the abominations of the Jews. What's the abomination? You rejected the promised Messiah and you delivered them up to be killed. So that's. It's their right judgment. So the context of wanting the disciples, wanting to know when that was going to take place was so, like you said, they could be safe and they could get to safety before that was going to happen, because that obviously was going to be a bad event. And so that's what the Olivet discourse is about. And we can talk about that more. But, but the seventh week of Daniel and the Olivet discourse are interlinked, right? It's the punishment and it's the, you know, of the Jewish nation. [00:58:35] Speaker A: So you, you really need both those. And you kind of need both those before you even try to get into Revelation. But even above all that, I think it's good to remember, just big picture wise. And guys, you can go back and look up on our website, on our podcast page, on the website where we keep all these archived. Chip Brogdon just put in the name Chip. I've interviewed him maybe three times. But the last one where I interviewed Chip, we just talked about the covenants, the five covenants, Noah, Abraham, Moses, David, and this everlasting covenant which that Jesus made. There's a point to each one of those. And kind of studying those a little bit is important too, for this big overarching thing. And like David's already talked about with Abraham, I mean, you gotta put yourself in Abraham's shoes. I mean, he's in this polytheism, you know, child sacrifice and just. And he hears an A voice, an invisible word comes and he believes an invisible word and he leaves his country and his culture and his house, his daddy's house, his fam. All he leaves to. He believed a word and look at that covenant. He's going to be a blessing to many nations. Many nations. That's big. And we'll have to get in that in a future show. And of course, we know what happens. And then Moses got to bring the family of Israel, the 12 tribes where the whole Israel word comes from. David mentioned it too. But coming out of Egypt to the promised land. This covenant with David. Hey, David. Obey. Keep my commandments, Honor me, keep me. I'm. I'm God most high. Worship me, Love me, trust me, Follow me. Stay with me. Come on. And I will con. I will covenant with you, bless you, keep you, keep you in this promised land that I promised your ancestors. And now you have it. Keep you prosperous, keep you protected, keep you for the benefit of all the nations. They can see what a righteous people with a righteous God. What it looks like. Stay with me. You will bless many nations. Come on now. Stay with me, David. But if you don't, if you don't see what's going to happen, well, guess what. Solomon, boom, he gets wisdom. But he's so wise, he's gonna go get 600 wives or whatever it was. He's gonna follow these false gods of the foreign, the little G, fallen angel, false God, all that. That's it done. From that point, this thing's done, this whole Israel, 12 tribes. God was with them until the people said, we're not with you anymore. And boom, the 12 tribes split at that point, after Solomon's son comes, I forget his name, but that's it. The Assyrians come and the ten tribes are gone. The two tribes are left. And we got to keep that tribe, the Judah. That's where Jew comes from. Judah, Jew. We need that one to stay. And God's going to make sure it gets here because Jesus is coming from that line. The Messiah is coming from that line of Judah. The line of Judah. God's gonna get this thing done and he's gonna. And the Messiah is going to come out of a virgin, out of this line of David. But just because the modern context of what's going on in the Middle east and the geopolitical nature of all that, and we'll have to get into that too. I already mentioned who say they are Jews, but they aren't. That's a going to be a super hot topic not to pick on anyone. I'm for all the people. I love the Palestinians and I love the Jewish people. I love the people. I don't. And we're supposed to love our neighbor. But I'm trying to figure out how I can interpret scripture to hate the ruling elite. Who knows what God they follow. Little G, God, fallen angel makes me. I can get a little righteous anger going. I don't like those guys. And they're ruling this world and we're exposing that evil. Not just me and David, it's all of us. The Body of Christ walking together as one. One head, one spirit, leading us together, all in our true identity, seated in the heavenlies. We gotta have spiritual eyeballs on this thing, guys. We've got to judge things from God's point of view, his, his direction from that third realm, heavenly realm. We can't be sucked back down into this first, first realm, physical, carnal mind. Mindset on the carnal leads to death, the mindset on the spirit leads to life. So all this division, I gotta be for Palestine or I gotta be for no love. Love is a currency. The kingdom of God and fear will drive you into self centeredness and you're not going to love your neighbor and you're going to get into this tree of knowledge of good and evil, left and right division. So we're overcoming this guys. The light is going to overcome this darkness. And this is a piece, it's like a puzzle. We do puzzles during the winter for some reason in my house and I'm not too good at them. And sometimes I put a piece in, it doesn't really fit, but I think it does. And then at the very end you're like, no, I'm off. Well it's because this piece over here, you try to force it, it didn't really fit. You gotta extract that, you got to move it. That's a repentance, that's a changing of the mind. These key puzzle pieces, you try to force them a certain way, it's going to throw you off and it's going to throw your heart off and your heart beliefs off and ultimately going to keep you from the unity and the love. So we got to get these pieces put in the right order and that's what the point of this, this podcast connect the dots for you, for everybody. God's helping me to connect dots for myself and my family and for the listeners, listeners and again, don't have it all figured out. David's not a right about 100 things about being right or wrong. It's being open and honest and repentant and humble and I hope you've we've come across that way today. This is for the love, the glory of God and the love of his body, our fellow saints, so we can walk in the light as he's in the light. David, sorry, got a little on a rampage there. But I get worse fired up because people are dying and suffering and still kill, destroy is happening. And Jesus came that we don't have to live in that we get to live in life more abundant. Not for some self Centered reason, for the glory of God and the benefit of the people. And that's why we're doing the show today, for the benefit of the people. We love all the people, so these categories and labels. But we are going to have David back to talk about some of this more controversial stuff. For the glory of God. Give me the last word. [01:05:21] Speaker B: Well, I mean, we live in a spiritual battle. And so my what, my. What I'm trying to do is that if you can, if you can see if I can teach prophecy so people can see the historical fulfillment of the seventh of Daniel, of parts of Matthew 24, you know, Revelation, things like that, those are deceptions from the enemy. So how do you beat the enemy? It's not through flesh and blood, but it's exposing their deceptions. So if you can see the truth, you can expose their deceptions. When you can expose their deceptions, you set the captives free. You set people free from being oppressed by those wrong explanations, by those wrong gospels, by those. Because there's a lot of churches out there teaching a false gospel. So when you expose these things, you're exposing the deceptions of the enemy to cast them down from power, to set the captives free. And that leads to a harvest of souls in the end time. So. But it's got to come through truth. It's got to be come from exposing the enemy's lies. And you know, it's just. I know, I know it's bizarre again to think, you know, everybody teaches one thing and we're teaching another, but I just, if people just, just take a look, I mean, just pray about it, take a sincere look and you know, and just go through BibleProphecy Decoded.com. it'll, it'll step you through it. You can print up summaries, watch videos. I try to make it as simple as I can, but with enough detail that you're going to see the fulfillment and, and just have a heart for truth. That's all you want. You know, don't just see truth, not to defend a belief, knowing that the enemy has created deception. Many deceptions see truth and, and I think the spirit, especially, especially since the health incident of 2020, so many people have had more time. It's caused them to question things and they pursue truth and they're, and they're finding it. The Spirit's answering those prayers. I pray, I pray for people who are searching for truth, that they're, you know, they find the explanations that they need because they're out there. But you need the Spirit guide in your path to see them. [01:07:24] Speaker A: Amen. And guys, like I try to say after these podcasts lately, at the end of the day comes boils back down to Jesus, abide in the vine. Talk to him every day. It's all about relationship. At the end of the day, if it doesn't lead you to loving Jesus more and trusting him more and peace and joy reigning in your heart and loving not your own life, even unto death, realizing you're a spirit being housed in the flesh, you can't die. You know, it's got to bring you back to that core thing. And Jesus said it real clear. Love God, love your neighbor as much as you love yourself. Just so at the end of the day, if, if you're getting overwhelmed, just pause time out, start talking to God about it and just camp out on that piece right there. Love God. Love your neighbor. [01:08:08] Speaker B: Love it. [01:08:08] Speaker A: All right, guys, David Wilcoxon, we will have to have you back. It's been awesome. Thank you for joining us today. [01:08:15] Speaker B: Been my pleasure. Thanks for having me. [01:08:17] Speaker A: Okay, everybody, we'll be back next week with another great show. I'm Dr. Ben Edwards. You're the cure.