The Mystery of the Tree of Life | Abraham John

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Hey everybody. Welcome to another episode of you're the Cure. I'm so excited for this show. I say that a lot, probably especially when the guest is Abraham John. But the book he has written, guys, I'll tell you what, he emailed me and said, Dr. Ben, I wrote another book. It's like a book a month. Abraham, how do you do this? But this is a special one. And he said that in the email. I ordered the book right away. He was not lying. The book, we're going to talk about it. The tree of life. Guys, the reason I'm so excited about this, you know, so much in the world right now is being revealed. Every lies being revealed, every corrupt, demonic, satanic scheme. And it's so ugly, so dark and, and you know, if you've turned your TV off, that's, that's good. But we don't need to put our head in the sand over it. We definitely don't need to be fearful about it. Everything that can be shaken is being shaken right now. That is what is going on is in my opinion. And so there's only one thing, I keep saying it in the past few episodes that's not going to be shaken. And that's the kingdom of God. Yes, that's what we've got to seek. That's what we got to hold on to, find our identity in it, our self worth and value and who we are. We got to clearly see who God is. We got to clean up any misconception of God. We've got to see who we are, where we're seated, see ourselves as spirit beings. There's just so much there that, and that's where you will have your strong foundation. So there are practical, absolute practical steps. But so much of this starts with our thinking and for new listeners, you know, I'm a doctor. The show's called you're the Cure. What does this have to do with doctrine and disease and symptoms? It has everything to do with it, guys. Because we are a spirit being housed in the flesh. And our heart beliefs impact our DNA, our mitochondria, our water. We're one big bag of water. I've explained all that in previous shows. If you're new, go listen some of those old shows or read my eight part series. It's a blog or written articles on our website. Why I talk about the peace pillar so much. There's eight, eight articles on there that connect the dots from the physical. Your heartburn, your high blood pressure, your migraine headache, your infertility, your fibromyalgia your autoimmune disease, all the things connecting it to our beliefs, our thoughts. As a man thinketh in his heart, so is he. And we've been just flooded, brainwashed, presented with so much knowledge and information, and we've been tempted. And we bought the. We bought the temptation of going into the. The tree of knowledge of good and evil, right and wrong, and debate and information, and listen all these podcasts and go on rabbit holes into all the conspiracy theories. I do it myself, so I'm not condemning that. But at some point, we've got to time out, take a pause and take a breath. What's the very root, root, root cause of all of this chaos? I'm going to start on page 111 of the book Tree of Life or the Mystery of the Tree of Life by Abraham. John it is time for God's people to wake up and rise up. This is the time of a great awakening. A great awakening does not mean everyone returned to church on a Sunday morning. It means awakening to our true self, our true identity, and our divine purpose. When this awakening happens on a global scale, it will result in a true revolution. Seeking God's kingdom does not mean attending church on a Sunday, giving tithes and offerings, or engaging in charitable activities. It means returning to the original intent and assignment for which God created us. This can only happen when we genuinely seek and discover the kingdom of God. This is what is happening right now among God's people, globally. This is the journey every son and daughter of God is currently going through. There are moments in human history when the veil is lifted just enough for us to glimpse the architecture behind reality. Moments in which God, in His mercy, allows us to perceive why the world is the way it is and why humanity has struggled to walk in the dominion it was created to carry. This book represents one of those moments of unveiling. For generations, Christians have waited for God to intervene in matters he has already resolved through Christ. One of the greatest deceptions of our time is the belief that God still needs to do something before we can live in victory. This is the reason believers started to wait for revival or rapture. Everything God needed to do has already been accomplished. What remains is our awakening to what he finished. This is the mystery. Sin. Excuse me, sin and the devil no longer possess inherent power. Their influence persists only because humanity continues to live from the wrong source of wisdom, the same forbidden source, the serpent introduced in Eden. I want to repeat that last paragraph because just what's going on in the world right now in the news, depending on what news you watch, you're getting a deeper and darker version of the. Of what's coming out through the Epstein files and other things. Sin and the devil no longer possess inherent power. Their influence persists. Why is all this happening right now in the world? And by the way, guys, it's been happening from the beginning. It's just now getting uncovered unre, you know, revealed. The lights, getting shown. Their influence persists only because humanity continues to live from the wrong source of wisdom. The same forbidden source the serpent entered, introduced in Eden. Abraham. John, welcome back to the show. We need to explain to the audience what is that operating system? What is that source, and what is the other operating system? There's two operating systems, guys. And this is what Abraham lays out in this book so well, and he defines it. He gives characteristics of each operating system, the fruit that comes when you're operating from each of these operating systems. The. And how to transition out of. Because we unknowingly, through deception, took the bait and went to the tree of Knowledge of good and evil. And we didn't even know we did it. But that is where we're at, guys. And the answer to all of this is not the midterm elections. It's not the next presidential election. It's not the un. It's not any of this stuff. All that's tree and knowledge of good and evil. We've got to eat from the tree of life. Holy Spirit revelation. [00:07:52] Speaker B: Amen. Thank you, Dr. Ben. Always such an honor to be with you. Thank you for inviting me back to be on your podcast. Last time even I heard from people from different places. They watched the podcast and how they were blessed and they got the book. And now God is releasing more. Every time God gives me a book, I said, oh my gosh, this is the. This is the best. This is the solution. Then gives me. He unveils another layer of truth and the lies and the deception. We have been leaving. And it's an exciting time to be alive. Because every system or systems that is out there, built on lies, deceptions, darkness, it's coming undone. Whether it is politics, religion, even our own false identities, that we are at a place nothing satisfies us. No food, no entertainment, nothing else in this world satisfies us. Until, like you always say, Dr. Ben, until we discover our true identity, our purpose. Who am I? Where did I come from? Why am I here? And that's why we are here, to discuss and to share with you some of the truth that the Holy Spirit has revealed to us. Because if we don't adapt to this change that is happening in the world, economy is changing, everything is changing within, within few months from now, even by the end of this year, we will be in a whole different space in every way. So how do we prepare for what is coming? And I believe that's why God gave us this book. The mystery of the Tree of Life. Keys to permanent victory over sin, Satan and healing the nations. So like you said, Dr. Ben, our first human Adam, partook or activated a system of living by the knowledge of good and evil, what we call sin. Most of the time we are dealing with actions, but what produces that action. Just like you are in the medical field, when somebody comes in with a pain or something they are experiencing physically, as a doctor, you are not looking at that symptom, you are looking at the cause. What caused this pain or what is causing this pain? What is the root issue? And that's what Holy Spirit is helping us through this book to go to. The root issue of every dysfunction that we see in our own life and in the world, in the governments, in the religious system. Why the church is divided into 65,000 pieces. We're supposed to be one body, one Lord, one Jesus, one spirit. But it's all messed up. Now God is saying enough is enough. Now let's go back, now let's go back to the drawing board and understand the why, the big why. Why God created us, why he put us here, and where did this problem started. And going back to that source, going back to the root. And when we deal with that root, every other fruit, every other symptoms that we experience socially, politically, financially and even personally, this is one of the most important thing I have discovered, Dr. Ben. What I'm experiencing in my life outside, whether it's relationally, health wise, financially, it's only a reflection of my life that I live internally. That's one of the most important truth that God ever taught me. Because I'm always trying to change something outside. I'm trying to increase my income or fix my relationship. And the more we try sometime, the more it gets out of control. But what I'm experiencing externally is only a reflection of the life that I'm living internally. Like that's why you talk about this and deal with this more, the peace inside. So my financial life, my health, wealth, relationship, everything is a reflection of who I am, my identity and my relationship with myself and the prosperity of my soul, which is so important and key. And I thank God for people like you bringing that peace to the medical field. And dealing with illness, diseases, sickness. Not just prescribing some medicine out there, but going back to the dimension that is beyond physical. [00:13:21] Speaker A: Yeah. Amen. And you talk about it in the book. [00:13:25] Speaker B: Yes. [00:13:26] Speaker A: Whether you live from the spirit that influences your soul and through to your body versus flip at. Let's, let's live by our five senses and let's let our five senses tell us what the truth is. So that's our, our physical, our body leading the way as opposed to flipping that where the spirit leads away. We live by our spirit, not our flesh. And you, you talk about that so clearly in the Bible. But let's go back to. Or excuse me, in the book, let's go back to this, these two trees. Because what you underline in page 53 here, the real problem is humanity accepted a different sight, a strange voice, a new source, a false identity in a corrupted operating system. This became the root cause of every sin. Sin guy just means you missed the mark. But this became the root cause of every missed mark that people commit. Something changed in Adam's perception of God and himself. Yeah. So maybe just talk about what happened there and some of these characteristics of the tree of life versus the tree of knowledge of good. And I think that's what trips us up because we can get, we can define good and evil. We can see. No, this is good and this is good. I'm going to chase this good thing and help this good thing and work on this good thing and debate this good thing and prove my point and I'm right and, and it's, it's all, it's good stuff. [00:15:11] Speaker B: Yeah. But then the evil is manifesting now of all the good that we experienced, we didn't see the evil behind it. That's why God said in, In Genesis chapter 2, verse 9, this is where that tree is mentioned. There were two trees mentioned by name which was in the garden. The tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Why these two trees were mentioned by name? Because the entire Bible, our life on earth is connected to three trees. That's it. The whole life on earth from Genesis to Revelation is the story of three trees. The two trees that is mentioned here and the third one is the one that Jesus died, the cross. He who hang on a tree is cursed. The cross is called a tree in the Bible and Revelation 22 ends with the Tree of Life. So what these two trees represents, like you said, why it was so important, why did God say to Adam and Eve, do not eat from this tree of the Knowledge of good and evil. The day that you eat, you will die. And here comes the serpent talking to Eve. And the first thing the serpent says is no, you will not die. And what he says, your eyes will be opened. What does he mean by that? Were they blind before? They were not blind. What he meant by was a special sight or a perception will be opened inside them. Before they were led by the Spirit, they could see into the Spirit. They could see the kingdom of God. They were living in that dimension of heaven and oneness with God. And here the enemy saying that is going to be gone. You will not be able to live by that anymore. But a new sight will be open. So that is the first consequence that happened when Adam and Eve took from the knowledge of good and evil. They took a bite. And the Bible says their eyes were opened. What kind of eyes? That was a mental perception was opened inside them. What did they see through that perception? What they saw was their own nakedness. They couldn't see into the Spirit. They became mere creatures living by the five senses, physical senses. They lost the sixth sense, the faith or living by the spirit, living in union with God. Their sonship died. They lost the ability to connect with God as children and they saw this nakedness. They became self conscious. And what happened? They got afraid. Because they lost the ability to connect with God. Their perception of God changed. All of a sudden this fear came into them about God, that God is there somewhere. He is going to punish us. He is not for me. He will not accept me the way I am. He will not love me. That programming came into Adam and Eve. Before that, they were not living by that knowledge of good and evil. They were one with God. Loved. The Bible calls us in the New Testament, beloved. And when we live by the perception that is opened through the knowledge of good and evil, we will not see anything good in our life and we will not see anything good in the world. So now we know the root cause of why the evil that is happening in the world, why we cannot see anything good. Because we have been looking through the wrong set of eyes that were opened by the knowledge of good and evil. Not through the perception of God, not through the eyes of God. That is the first thing that needs to shift in our lives when we come to Jesus. Because that's why he said in Matthew 4:17, the first message Jesus preached. He said not to go to church or you know, the world is going to end. He said, meta no. Yeah, bend. It has to do with our mind to change that perception and go Back to the kingdom perception, which Adam and Eve lost. And that is what one of the most important things you and I, everyone that comes to your office struggles with. The root cause of most of the illness is they don't feel loved, they don't feel accepted. They can't see anything good in themselves. Maybe something happened to them when they were a child or they did something wrong and they have been overwhelmed by this grief or regret or guilt or whatever. Now God wants to come into that picture and change that perception. It's like a changing a lens, a glass through which we see before we come into God's kingdom, accepted by God or outside of the kingdom, living through the perception that was opened through the knowledge of good and evil. It's two different world. [00:21:03] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:21:04] Speaker B: And people in the same household can live in two different worlds. It is based on the perception. And not only that, not only their perception changed the way they saw themselves and the world and God. There was a twist in the way they heard the voice of God. Before, when they heard the voice of God, it brought acceptance. They felt comfort. They feel closeness with him. But now, after this new operating system of knowledge of good and evil was downloaded into them, when they heard the voice of God, instead of feeling loved, they became afraid. Now they want to run away from God instead of running to God. And that's where these problems religion came in. All these gods and goddesses came in. And what happened as a result? Adam and Eve went and made some tunics from fig leaves to make them feel good about themselves. They thought, let us try to cover ourselves so that we can build something so that we feel good about ourselves. That was another mistake. Trying to cover ourselves, trying to build our worthiness or acceptance based on our works. But only it comes through God and his righteousness. So the same voice they heard prior to that incident, the voice of God, which was love, acceptance. Now that same voice creating fear in them. So that what happened? Shame, fear and hiding. These three things is the result of living by the wrong tree. The knowledge of good and evil. Shame, fear and hiding. We feel bad about ourselves. We don't feel accepted, we don't feel loved. We are not sure God will love us. So we go into hiding. That's where majority of humanity is today. Now God is removing the curtain of every systems of this world. Now we get an opportunity to come to reality, to see ourselves, to look into the mirror of God and see his image and likeness in us. And come to acceptance with his truth. Not living based on any lies anymore. And that's what this book is for, actually. To help us to bring us back to that truth. We don't live to live in any lies anymore, any deceptions or in hiding. God is good all the time. He accepts you. He is waiting for you. Just like the Father of the prodigal Son was waiting for His Son to return. Our Father in heaven is waiting for you and I with open arms to receive us back into Himself and to his kingdom. And that is the main theme of this book, the Tree of life. [00:24:23] Speaker A: Yes, and I wrote down a few notes here that when we got tricked, deceived, and it was our choice to go this way, but to start eating from that tree of knowledge of good and evil. You talk about how we were never designed to be governed by the senses. In the five, senses are reactive, not revelatory. They interpret circumstances, not truth. Which is why Jesus said, if you have ears to hear. He didn't say not eyes to see, but ears to hear. Sensory living keeps humans grounded in fear and reaction. Spirit led living anchors sons in truth, authority, rest and alignment with heaven. So good. But you, I want you to comment on this part, because on page 43, you said what happened in Eden was governmental. [00:25:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:25:29] Speaker A: Involved two kingdoms. Let's talk about that a little bit. Because if people can see this as a governmental thing that happened, two kingdoms now in operation, and of course we know one of them's defeated. And as I read in that introductory remark, Jesus came and took care of what He. He reconciled us and restored us back to God's original intent where we can access the operating system that God wants us to use. We have that ability to choose to do that. But there are these two kingdoms. So talk about how what happened in Eden was governmental, that there's two kingdoms in our ability to choose which kingdom to operate under, which operating system to operate under. [00:26:18] Speaker B: So what these two trees represented, because they were not just normal trees like we think of, these two trees represented two kingdoms. The knowledge of good and evil tree represented the kingdom of darkness. The tree of life represent God and his kingdom. And also these two trees represent a two way of life, two way of thinking, two kinds of governments. One is based on the knowledge of good and evil. One is based on tree of Life. What is tree of Life? There's only life in it. There's no curse, there's no death, there's no sickness, there's no rejection, there's no shame. There is nothing negative in that tree, only life. Anytime you come to the tree of life, which is Jesus Christ, what Do you receive? You receive life, you receive healing not just for our physical body, but our soul, our spirit. So these two trees represent the two governments, means who gets to rule this earth. The enemy wants to establish his kingdom on the earth. His kingdom is built on the knowledge of good and evil. On the other side, God's kingdom is built on tree of life, which represents love and grace. So we had a choice, Adam had a choice to choose whether to activate the knowledge of good and evil and give legal rights to the enemy and his kingdom, to rule and establish his kingdom, his government on the earth or eat from the tree of life and establish God's kingdom, his government and his way of life on the earth. So the reason why we like laws or rules and regulations wrong and right, because this system is in us living by the knowledge of good and evil. Right wing, left wing, you know, that's a common thing in happening in all over the United States. People are fighting each other. That is wrong, that is right. This is good. That is evil. One party is good, one party is evil. Where's that coming from? It's coming from the Garden of Eden, the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. And on the cross what Jesus did, he took that knowledge of good and evil, nailed it to the cross. From that moment on, we should be living by the tree of life, love and grace, not by the law, not by the rules and regulations, living by our relationship with him, where the laws are written in our hearts and we are led by his spirit. That's what the Bible says. Those who are led by the spirit of God are the sons of God. [00:29:26] Speaker A: Amen. Yeah, I want to read another little piece here. This is in chapter 10. God never intended humanity to live from the tree of moral reasoning. This is what gets people hung up, I think, because if we know what's right, we know what's wrong. And I can defend that, argue that, debate that, and I can vote someone in to pass some laws because I know this certain thing is bad and we make a law against it. I mean that just makes such sense to our intellect. [00:29:59] Speaker B: But God, yeah, just to interject there, that's why the devil said you will be as a God having independent moral reasoning and judgment apart from God and his kingdom. That's what the enemy told Adam and Eve. You don't need God anymore. You can be your own God deciding what is right and wrong. That's what happened to humanity. [00:30:27] Speaker A: Yep. And that's the problem, guys. And if we continue eating from this tree, I don't care what Party you vote in or vote out. I mean, if you're old enough as I am. I'm 51, I think, and I'm not super old, but I've seen enough election cycles. I mean, I don't want to get into politics. [00:30:44] Speaker B: World getting better or worse? [00:30:46] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:30:46] Speaker B: When the election cycle we went through, is it getting any better or is it [00:30:53] Speaker A: more divided than ever? I want to read a little more here. God never intended humanity to live from the tree of moral reasoning. From the very beginning, his desire was relationship, communion, continuous fellowship, moment by moment, dependence, life flowing from his spirit. With the tree of life, we don't live seeking God's presence, but rather living in his presence. No longer looking for a visitation, but rather becoming his habitation. Yes, when a believer transitions from the knowledge of good and evil to the tree of life, everything changes for the devil too. He sees who lives in them. He loses access, he loses his power, he loses his right to operate. Jesus lived entirely from the tree of life. He only did what he saw the Father doing. This is why he was untouchable. The kingdom of God can only be established on earth through the tree of life. Many past generations tried to advance God's kingdom based on the knowledge of good and evil through good intentions, moral striving and religious effort. But these never produced lasting fruit. Humanity's fall did not only corrupt our behavior, it corrupted our very operating system. When Adam ate from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, he shifted from a life of communion to a life of information. From revelation to reasoning, from dependence to independence, from sonship to orphanhood. Yeah, that describes our whole issue right there in on one page. [00:33:06] Speaker B: That is the root of all that we are facing. It is what Jesus came to restore. You know, he accepted us in the beloved. That's why the New Testament calls us beloved. I have this verse here. 3 John, chapter one. There's only one chapter. Verse two says beloved. That's what God calls us. When you wake up in the morning, look in the mirror and say, I am God's beloved, not a servant, not waiting to feel something. Because we are all taught that we have to seek the presence of God in the new covenant, the kingdom. We are not seeking his presence. We became his temple, permanent residents. Not illegal immigrant, Not trying to visit your relative once in a while. No, no, no. We become the habitation of God permanently. When you go to work, God is going with you. He is not there waiting Sunday morning for two hours in a service that you felt something. The same thing you can feel 24, 7. When you change the operating system of what we think and how we think of God, you don't have to seek any specific music or service or meeting. You supposed to feel that presence and the glory of God. 24:7. And what is blocking that now is the soul part that is operating by the knowledge of good and evil. Because we are became self conscious and sin conscious and we get clogged in our spirit. Because mind is the bridge between our body and spirit, how come we are not feeling our spirit? Because if something is not clear in our soul, in our mind, in our thinking. That's why John wrote in 3 John 1:2, he says, Beloved, I pray that you may prosper in all things. God wants you to prosper. Beloved child of God, my brothers and sisters, not just working hard to meet your ends meet, but to prosper in all things. I'm not talking about the prosperity gospel here, but to be in health just as your soul prospers. How does our soul prospers? The more we transition from the knowledge of good and evil to the tree of life thinking the soul prosperity increases not by self improvement books, not any gimmicks or hypnotism. People teach us there. But changing the operating system from one tree to the other tree, it's two different world. One is God's kingdom, the other is the kingdom of darkness unknowingly. And religion is built on the knowledge of good and evil. That's why religion is bad. We don't want religion back in this country. What we need is the tree of life. [00:36:32] Speaker A: Amen. [00:36:33] Speaker B: That is an important statement I want to make because people are trying to bring religion back into this country. We don't want religion. Religion is what created this mess. The solution is God's kingdom operated by the tree of life. [00:36:48] Speaker A: Yes. Yep. And I marked a lot of notes on religion. Page 90, page 91, page 163, page 171, page 111. And we may get to those. And I do want to say, not to call anyone out, but to call, call them up. Guys, this is a different. We're in. It's a different time. Yes, this is a very, very different time. And I want to stay in honor to my brothers and sisters out there. But it is time to look at our fruit. And, and I just want to say this because this, this struck me for our listeners, for anyone, think about your today or yesterday or whatever. Think. Keep this in your mind. Is this how you live? Evaluating everything by good or evil, judging life through the five senses, relying on Intellect instead of communion, trusting logic, striving to be good enough through performance. If any of that sounds familiar, guys, or that's how you operate, you're operating in the wrong operating system. You are operating by the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Those are characteristics of that as opposed to what I just read a second ago. Let me turn back to it real quick. Relationship, communion, continuous fellowship, moment by moment, dependence, life flowing from his spirit. And when you read those five bullet points, when I was reading those, I immediately just thought, that's Jesus. When Jesus was walking the earth in relationship, in communion, continuous fellowship, moment by moment, dependence, life flowing from his spirit. He was showing us how to do it. How, how to operate in, in the original operating system God intended. He was an example of how to do this, guys. And I do believe we're supposed to be doing that. [00:38:50] Speaker B: Amen. [00:38:51] Speaker A: And to the degree, and it's a, it's a process and we're going to talk about that here in a minute because Abraham talks about in the book this journey of transition and process and there can be frustration, but ultimately because it says the devil could not find. There was nothing in Jesus. There was not a piece of him, of his operating system that in any way was from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. The devil couldn't touch him. Yeah, could find nothing in him. You mentioned the book Abraham, the, the roaring line prowling around who he may devour. And I don't have the exact quote, but basically he can't just prowl around anywhere. He can only prowl around in the territory of the knowledge of good and evil is operating. If you're operating in the original operating system, God intended to it untouchable, just like Jesus. [00:39:46] Speaker B: Amen. That's so important because these days, you know, people worry about spiritual warfare. They're always seeing some groups and always demons. Oh my God, that's a demon. Here's a demon. But what gives that demons legal ground to operate is the original root system that Adam activated, which is the knowledge of good and evil. That's what gives the enemy legal right. As long as. Dear child of God, listen to this. As long as we operate in that system, we will not experience permanent victory over sin or devil. As long as we operate, remain in the knowledge of good and evil system, we will not experience permanent victory over sin and the devil. We will experience some temporary, you know, solutions here and there, but we will go right back into it. That is where God wants to bring us out of. Because Jesus came to die for our sins. Everybody agrees that there's no debate. There is no need of arguing about. Jesus gave his life for our sins on the cross and he defeated the enemy. Then why would they act like nothing happened to them? Sin is thriving all over the world. The devil and his kingdom is prospering like nothing happened to it. The reason is humanity have not shifted, transitioned from the system that gave sin and devil the legal right to operate. That's what we need to address. That is the time that we are in right now. [00:41:34] Speaker A: Yeah, Amen. That's such a key point that the devil can't do anything. If we're operating in the operating system God tells us to operate in originally set up for us to operate in. And we've been deceived and just not shown, not taught. We haven't seen with the eyes of our heart properly. And Jesus came to open those eyes, open the eyes of the blind. I was blinded to all this guys. A lot of my patients are people I interact with. No condemnation that. I'm just saying we. I can observe the fruit in my life and others lives. Looking back totally it was this operating system. I didn't realize it. Go ahead Abraham. [00:42:21] Speaker B: Yeah. Then people, religious people have learned this thing says God is in control. Brother. You might have heard that term right? God is control. If God is in control, he is doing such a bad job. Look at what's happening in this world. If God Almighty is in control of everything that is happening. Look at the news that is coming out the files that is coming. The child trafficking, the. The. The porn industry, the drug, my gosh, the wars, the mess that is there. If God is in control, none of those things should be happening. God is not in the controlling business. He gave us the control, the dominion, jurisdiction of what happened happens on the earth to humans. In Genesis 1:26, God said let us create humans in our image, in our likeness. And he handed over the jurisdiction over the earth to humans. Let them have dominion. God is sovereign in his sovereignty. God handed over, entrusted the jurisdiction of this planet earth to you and I. And we get to decide whether it is Old Testament, New Testament, Matthew 16:19. Jesus said I am giving you, I'm handing over the jurisdiction, the keys of my kingdom to you. Just like God did in Genesis 1:26. He created Adam. He said let them have dominion means I am handing over the jurisdiction of the earth to you. Jesus did the exact same thing in Matthew chapter 16, 18 and 19. He said I am giving you the keys of my kingdom. What does that mean? The right to exercise, to Decide what needs to happen on the earth realm. I'm handing it over over to you. And whatever you decide, I will check it as okay in heaven. Whatever you don't permit here, I will not permit it. You and I holds the keys of God's kingdom, the authority of jurisdiction over this realm in this age. That's what we need to wake up to. Not the devil. The devil and sin has no inherent power or authority. Authority left since the cross, which is 2,000 years ago, but they have been reigning. Like Paul says, the sin reigns where the grace is absent. That's the awakening that is happening now globally. People are saying there has to be something more to this, what I'm experiencing. There has to be something more to life than just going to work and make trying to make a living. There has to be. There is more to life than what you're experiencing now. And that's what this book is inviting you to. To the tree of life, to coming back to the original system God implemented introduced in the garden. [00:45:48] Speaker A: Yep. And that's such a key point. I know people are going to have to chew on well all this, this is me to chew on. And, and it can be offensive certain things if, when, because the truth in my life, I'll tell you has offended me over the years and sometimes I've run away from it for a little bit. But you keep seeking and you get an aha moment in your heart because that, that's a big statement. God not being in control and how I like to put is he's in charge, not in control. But that really can hit people the wrong way or make them squirm or run away. But bringing that right down to a very day to day. An example I'll give people is, you know, if you struggle with, you can just pick one say people pleasing and in your. In today, in your day to day activity at work or at the grocery store, the gas station, or you have any decision to make with your boss or a family member or a friend or a church mate, you get to decide if that thought of I need to keep this person happy. The spirit of man pleasing is that spirit that thought that that lie gonna influence a decision you made today or not. You get to choose that. God's not choosing that for you. So that's just a very practical daily in the moment you can see. Yeah, I think everyone can see. God's not making me choose to submit to a spirit of man pleasing or a spirit of fear or fill in the blank demonic influence he's allowing us to make a choice today in our moment, in our day to day living. You can take that. In the physical realm, is God going to choose whether you pick a Coca Cola and a 64 ounce Coca Cola versus some good mineral water and how many of those are you going to drink today? And the physical consequence of that inflammation and obesity and all the things. And then we get a diabetes and a stroke directly correlated to the inflammation of this high fructose corn. Sirup we chose to put in. That's a real simple and basic example too. But just for those who may have gotten a little bit triggered there. It's something to chew on, but it's such an important point and maybe I don't see how much time we got here. We may have to do a part two on this. Because if God in His sovereignty, being in charge, made the decision, yes, that he wants a family and children and kids to go carry out his ideas, his ways, the way Jesus is described as the way, the truth, the life, is there a way to see, a way to interpret, a way to speak, a way to make decisions and behave? Did he choose to create a creature in his likeness and image that can house his spirit, but that he will allow to make the choices of how to fulfill his will as it is in heaven, on the earth? [00:48:57] Speaker B: Yes. [00:48:58] Speaker A: Did he make this plan, this master plan and his decision to do this and it brings him some sort of pleasure or there's some other reason of why the kids need to bring his will into reality in the physical realm we call Earth. And we really, really, really need to be open to that possibility that yes, he did choose that. Go ahead, Abraham. [00:49:21] Speaker B: You just explained the whole God's eternal plan for mankind and the earth. God in his sovereignty, He's a king. He has a kingdom. And he wants to see that kingdom expand, grow. He created the earth. Then he created us in his image, in his likeness. He put himself in us through his spirit. By breathing his spirit into Adam, we became a living soul housing God inside us. We were not here to do our own thing. We were sent by God, created by God to live in communion with him 247 doing what his what we see him doing in heaven and duplicate on the earth as it is in heaven. That is our original intent and plan that God had for us. But now we have gone the other way, other direction because we ate from the wrong tree, the knowledge of good and evil. And we have created this mess that we see on the earth today. And who is going to fix this? That's why Jesus Came to restore us what we lost. To open the door back to the tree of life. He is the tree of life. He told us to eat from him. Eat him. That's communion. You know, we take the Lord's supper, His body, his blood. We are eating from the tree of life. And that same life get transferred to you and I. And you live in that communion with God 24:7 without fear. That's what the Bible says. I want to give this verse to our listeners. For God has not given us a spirit, spirit of fear, but of power and love and sound mind. Remember those three things happened to Adam and Eve. Shame, fear and hiding. And here God is giving us the solution. The power, not the spirit of fear. See that fear came into Adam. Every other human being that was found born on the earth was affected by fear. Fear is a number one demon. It's a spirit that is afflicting all of humanity. Actually, I don't think anybody is on the earth who has not experienced fear or not afraid about something in life. But God wants to give you the spirit of power and love instead of shame. He wants to fill you with the spirit, spirit of love. And the third one is sound mind. What is the sound mind? What does that mean? Healed and restored nervous system. That you're not operating in the wrong operating system based on the knowledge of good and evil. He wants this to be whole, Wholeness, spirit, soul and body. Healed and restored nervous system. Every thought is like a tree inside our nervous system. Even there is a part in our brain look like a tree. What is that tree? The tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Every thought comes to us in the form of a tree which has the capacity to bear fruit. Are we bearing the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil? Or are we bearing the fruit of the tree of life, which is power, love and healing? What is the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil? Shame, fear and hiding. [00:53:12] Speaker A: Oh so good. Abraham, there's so much more I want to cover. It's a few minutes we have left and I want to comment on because you do a great job of talking about practical things. Transitioning from the knowledge of good and Evil is chapter 13. I'm going to read a little bit. Many have been waiting for something to change. Externally. I know the whole world right now seeing all this ugliness that's being revealed. We. We want something to change. And some people are talking about revolution and taking up arms. And I was just talking to somebody the other day, okay. I mean I. I can get as mad as anybody. And we, I mean there's a righteous anger for sure when you see some of this just horrible stuff and so you can go shoot somebody. I mean, even if there was this war and say you gathered up all your Christian, conservative, whatever moral, you know, like minded people and you all banded together and somehow did a physical kinetic war and all these people gathered up in the state of Texas, Oklahoma and whatever, some territory and you seceded and you made your own country and you elected some leaders and you tried to implement laws to force the behavior. Obviously, yes, it's going to be the same thing over and over and over. And I'm not saying don't not do anything and yeah, but we're. That's what the point of the show is today. There's stuff to do, all right. There's the way, there's God's way. There's a tree of life. Anyways, back to this quote. Many have been waiting for something to change externally. They're waiting for a culture to shift and for everything wrong out there to be fixed without realizing that external change only happens as a result of an internal shift each one of us must first make. First of all, we need to transition from religion into the kingdom of of God. Many people think that because they attend church or serve in a church, they're fulfilling their kingdom assignment or part of God's kingdom. That's far from the truth. Actually. They're participating in religion, not functioning in the kingdom. Skipping down a little bit, number two, then we need to transition from attending and doing church to functioning as the Ecclesia. If that's a new word to you audience, that's another show church. But get the book. Church and Ecclesia are not the same. These belong to two entirely different realities. Church is an institution that is part of a religious system called Christianity. Ekklesia, on the other hand, is a governing body of the kingdom of God which Jesus said he would build in Matthew 16:18. Next, we need to transition from old covenant rituals into new covenant realities. Next, we need to transition from merely working jobs into fulfilling our kingdom assignments. Next, from we need to go from performance based religious identity to sonship based kingdom identity. Finally, we need to transition from the knowledge of good and evil into the tree of life. And this transition process has five steps. 1. Revelation 2. Renunciation 3. Reordering 4. Re identification 5. Reorientation and this transition, guys, it's that just that it's a transition and there can be cycles of defeat and frustration, but we keep going and we keep going and we renew our mind. And Abraham mentioned the word metanoia. That's repent in our English version of the Bible. But that Greek word is changing your thinking, going beyond how you used to think. This is a take. Capture your thought, renew your mind. But Abraham, in our remaining time here, talk a little bit about this transition and the, the defeat and frustration part. But how do people, because you talk about meditation, meditating on what, but talk a little bit about this transition of how do you do this? How do you move from that tree to the righteous tree of life. [00:57:25] Speaker B: Yeah, that's where we started this, this podcast. I was saying our outside life, our external life is a reflection of the life that we live inside. So if outside needs to change, if the world needs to change, what we see in the world is a collective reflection of our belief system. That is what we see in the world, what we see in the politics, what we see in the religious world, what we see in our culture. This is the word of the Lord for you, my dear people of God. What we see in our culture is a collective reflection of our belief system. So if something needs to change out there, where that change needs to begin, inside you and I, and how does that change look like? We are not going to operate from the default set of right and wrong. As soon as something happens, as soon as you hear somebody tells you about somebody, something you see on the news, or your cousin came and told you something, do not make a preconceived judgment based on what you're hearing. You go to, to the source. You're supposed to go to the father in heaven, your daddy, your heavenly father, and get his opinion first. That's what Jesus did when he met the woman at the well, who was married five times. When the woman was caught in the adultery was brought to him, what did he do? He went to dial up to the father. Father, what is your opinion about this situation? And I want you to take this from this podcast from beginning now, beginning today, before you go into the default mode of operation. Anything happens to your life, you see a symptom, you feel a pain, you hear some news about somebody, your neighbor, your relative, your brother, your sister, anything that happens out there, before you go to a preconceived conclusion based on the knowledge of good and evil, you take it to the father, get his opinion first. That doesn't mean open your Bible and read it. That's okay, that is good. But you and I supposed to hear the voice of God and you may say, abraham, I don't know how to do that. Maybe we have to do a show for that. Dr. Ben yes, because most people don't know how to hear the voice of God because they think they are not spiritual enough to hear the voice of God. Jesus said, my sheep hear my voice. Not through a preacher, nor through reading a book, not through just reading the Bible, but hearing his voice in your spirit, man. And the good news is God is always speaking to your spirit, man. You don't need to have this supernatural experience. Somebody walking through the window and all of a sudden light shining in your room and lightning striking through the room. No, no, no, no. God. God's voice is in your spirit, man. And he's always talking. We just don't know how to listen to him. It's not that God is talk, is not talking to you. We just don't know how to listen to him. So this is how we make the transition from the knowledge of good and evil to the tree of life is living by communion, moment by moment, communion with the Father. Because he loves you. He sent you to fulfill an assignment for his kingdom on the earth. I encourage you, before you leave this earth, make sure you do that. And that's how you make that transition. And first, it may, it may not make any sense. First, you may get frustrated. I'm not hearing anything. I'm not sensing anything. You just stick with it. Just like medicine, you take that medicine, you do that exercise, you know that exercise is going to show up three months from now. You're going to feel the difference the same way the spiritual exercise. You may not feel something, you may feel frustrated, you may feel disappointed, but you stick with it. Because God word is eternal and it will work because he is faithful. [01:02:03] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:02:04] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:02:05] Speaker A: Amen. [01:02:06] Speaker B: Amen. [01:02:07] Speaker A: So good, guys, you gotta get the book. And even though, you know, somewhere in this conversation we talked about information that, that's eaten from the tree of knowledge versus revelation. And when I'm, you know, I'm full of information, I have a stack of books so high, my nightstands about to tip over. And my wife reminds me all the time about this. So, guys, when, when I read books and when I, you know, we have this podcast, we've had it for over 10 years. You can go listen to years worth of podcasts, of course, a ton of podcasts before, you know, other than mine are out there, you can just sit all day and consume information. Ask the Holy Spirit to guide you and bring this information over into Revelation, which is the spirit of God is gonna penetrate your heart and write it on your Heart. I just had a patient yesterday. I try to say things in love, but this little old lady, I don't even remember it but she said Dr. Ben, the last visit you told me something. And. And this lady he has, she comes from kind of a tough life. Daughter that's in and out of prison and just kind of a tough situation, has been in it for a long time and drinks diet Dr. Pepper to self medicate and soothe. And her husband brings her all kinds of food from the convenience store that's not great and all these things. But there was a lack of peace in her. And what she told me was that I told her she needed to let her daughter go and give her daughter to God. But what she was. And that was many months ago. But what she told me in yesterday's visit was that offended her. She got mad at me that day that I said that. But as she was driving home a two hour drive to her where she lives, Holy Spirit spoke in her heart. Wow. And connected it. Where it became not just a word of information from me. It touched her heart in a way only Holy Spirit can do to bring. [01:04:24] Speaker B: That's what we're talking about. [01:04:25] Speaker A: True peace. Yeah. So there's so much good knowledge in here from the Spirit of God through Abraham onto these pages. But it, but read it with a yearning for truth to be written on your heart. [01:04:39] Speaker B: That communion. Yes, communion with God. God wants you. He desires to have communion with you, dear sister, brother. He wants it more than you do. And you just need to waiting for that alignment to happen between your Spirit and his Spirit and then become one with him. [01:05:00] Speaker A: Yeah. And all of creation is waiting, crying out and waiting for the sons of God to start eating from that tree of life. Be in communion, being led by the spirit, only doing and saying what we see our Father doing and saying, just like Jesus, that can happen in the earth. And that's what. And some people don't like this either, that God's waiting for. Some people say, well, God's not waiting for anything. He's just going to get his stuff done and he's in control of it all. And all that. And this is just a different perspective, guys. And I would humbly submit to you to consider and prayerfully seek that God's desire is for things to get done this way. And there is a waiting game for us to wake up. And I'm going to leave it with this. Page 54. The God of this world wants to blind our minds. Why? Because the enemy knows that the moment humanity begins to think Correctly his game is over. Jesus accomplished it. It's done. He sat down at the right hand of the Father. Accomplished it is finished. It is done. The enemy is finished and done. When the sons us, Christ in us and we see who we are seated in heavenly places, we manifested in the earth. All this chaos will be done. Guys, it's not going to be pick up your guns. It's not going to be vote someone in office. Not gonna be any other scheme that could look really, really good to your intellect. At some point this is going to happen. So why not now? Why not us? This generation? Let the spirit of God flow through us. That means we have to die to our own lies and false identities and all that stuff. Performance, man pleasing religion, all that stuff. Fear of lack, fear of dying, fear of it. [01:06:49] Speaker B: We need to stop being our own God and go to a real God. That is the transition humanity needs to make. Instead of taking life into our own hands. You go to the source of life and do what he wants us to do. That is a solution. That's the tree of life living. [01:07:10] Speaker A: Amen. That's it. Okay. Abraham, please will you come back? And I want to talk about. Because we didn't get to it. Why did God even put two trees there to begin with? [01:07:23] Speaker B: Oh my gosh, you're asking for trouble. [01:07:28] Speaker A: Yeah, we've got to talk about that. Because when you connect those dots, what happened in this earth before humanity got got on the scene. So we gotta have you back for that. Why are there these two trees? And then we're gonna have to have you back on hearing God's voice for sure. And I'm sure in between now and then, you'll probably have written two more books. [01:07:56] Speaker B: Thank you. I just want to bless our listeners with that spirit of power. If you're feeling weak in your body, in your spirit, God wants you to know that he wants to release his power to you and the spirit of love. He loves you and he wants you to have a healed and restored nervous system mind. God bless you. See you next time. [01:08:21] Speaker A: All right, thank you, Abraham. Real quick, what website can people find the books? [01:08:26] Speaker B: The kingdom network.org or they can go to Amazon. [01:08:31] Speaker A: It's. [01:08:32] Speaker B: They can order it on Amazon or the kingdom network.org There you can order the book. It's an amazing book. Order two copies. If you're a husband and wife, get two copies because you will be fighting over this. [01:08:48] Speaker A: Guaranteed. Guaranteed. Yeah, y' all go to Abraham's website, check it out. Tons of resources, probably over 40 books. There's a lot of free resources. There's videos, there's meetings, there's kids books. So much good stuff. Support Abraham and his work. He's doing amazing work all over the world. Thank you, Abraham, for joining us. Thank you for all your work for the Kingdom of God. [01:09:12] Speaker B: Bless you. Thank you for what you're doing. [01:09:14] Speaker A: You're welcome. All right, guys, until next time, we'll put this on the website. Veritas, wellnessmember.com, youTube, all the podcast platforms, and we'll be back next week with another great show. [01:09:27] Speaker B: Bye. [01:09:28] Speaker A: Bye.