Sons, Not Sinners | Abraham John

[00:00:02] Speaker A: Hey guys, welcome to the show today. Got Abraham John back again. So get ready for some powerful truth coming right to your heart. That was our prayer before we hit record that these words will be from the Holy Spirit, you know, God's heart coming through our words. Because my heart is, my earnest heart is to line up with God's heart, God's truth, God's word through the tree of life, the Holy Spirit putting truth on our hearts and so that we can walk in that truth of the kingdom here in the earth. And that's what's going to transform things in the earth. The truth is what will transform things in the earth. And God has chosen to use a vehicle called a human, specifically sons. And maybe we'll just jump off right in there. My kids have come home from various events. I'm not going to pick on any in particular institution or group or anything, but it's been a common theme three different occasions in the past couple weeks. Dad, this person was just trying to teach us about God, but he just kept saying, we're sinners, we're sinners, we're sinners, we're sinners. And you've been sinners since you were born. You were a sinner. When you're a baby, when you cried for that bottle, that was sin and you're a sinner. And just it was woo. And. And I had to not get in my flesh and get competitive and argumentative and fall into the tree of knowledge of good and evil and get into debate and all that. So I had to catch myself and I had to take a deep breath and I try to really try to think. If Jesus were sitting right here in the chair next to me at the dining room table where we were having this conversation, what would Jesus's expression be on his face when he heard that? And what would he. How would he answer that? And some people might think that's sort of blasphemous, that I could actually try to think like Jesus and represent Jesus, speak like Jesus. But I think that's what we're supposed to do. So my in brief answer to that was, well, son, we were all born into Adam. You know, Adam ate of that tree of knowledge, good and evil. We're born into that nature. But you were born again. And now that you're born again, how God sees you. If God were on that podium or where that, that classroom or wherever you heard that at, if God was teaching that day, he would have looked at you with love in his eyes and called you a son and beloved and Beautiful and a friend. And you know, we can go through all the scriptures, the of what God calls us. We are the righteousness of God in Christ and all this is in Christ, the old man dead. But anyways, we, we'll get into those things. I, I just, there's so much lack of knowledge. A gospel that was incomplete, that was preached to so many people. And guys, the reason this show talks about it, you're the cure is because that mitochondria resonates at a frequency of either the truth or not the truth. And only the truth will bring the fullness of that physical. And it's actually a magnetic. We now know at the very core of your mitochondria is a magnetic field. And the magnetic field is highly influenced by blue light coming off your screens by artificial light bulbs and all this artificial light versus sunlight. Sunlight brings a frequency to that magnetic field field that normalizes it to a large degree so that it can actually process your food appropriately. And we're trying to fix everything with food. When you're putting good quality food into a magnetic field that's off and sunshine helps bring it back and minerals help bring it back, and resistance training and steps and grounding your feet on the earth, all that helps. But the number one most impactful thing is your heart beliefs. Heart beliefs. Tune that magnetic frequency. And so if we're walking in the truth, how does God see this situation? How would he react in this situation? What does his word say about this situation? What does it say he say about me? Us? It's all super important for your health. It all goes together. You can't pull apart. You can try, but we're not supposed to pull apart. All the different parts that God, you know, the spirit, soul and body, it all goes together. So anyways, I asked Abraham, John to come back on the show, partly in big part to talk about what he's been doing lately. Because it's an encouragement to see the sons of God moving throughout the earth, bringing the kingdom into the earth. The reality of that, people are looking for solutions, looking for help, looking for relief from the chaos in the earth right now. And you're not going to find it in any political movement or party. You're not going to find it in the next election, you're not going to find it religion, you're not going to find it in any of your own self works, anything else but the kingdom. The kingdom will bring the light and the truth in the way and joy and peace will attend you. And Abraham's out there bringing that Truth. And we're gonna have other guests in the future in their little ways, bringing the piece of truth that God's given them. But this is a massive piece that Abraham John has. I'm on my third reading of the Tree of Life. If you've not got that book, the Tree of Life, absolute game changer. I'll probably read it three more times. Abraham John, welcome back to the show. I'm talking way too much. And the mic to you, I just get excited because you can just feel the presence even through the miles and miles apart that we are. You just carry the presence of the Lord and the truth that the body of Christ needs and I think is yearning for. And so let's just dive in. And I'd love for you to share where the Lord's taken you across the world these past few months. But. But for sure, feel free to comment anything you have to say on the opening remarks. [00:06:05] Speaker B: Yes. Thank you, Dr. Man, it's always such a joy, honor, privilege for me to be back here with you on this podcast. You are the Cure. That phrase has such a weight and such a relevance to the time and the season we are in. You are the cure. I can't emphasize that. And so I'm so grateful to be back here with you and to our precious audience from around the world. You know, when I travel now, I'm hearing from people. Hey, I saw you on Dr. Ben's podcast. You are that Abraham joker. And I'm hearing that now more than ever. So appreciate you for what you're doing. You are coming from a scientific and medical perspective. And what I'm bringing, connecting all those pieces in a theological perspectives from where you started. You know, your children came in from wherever they came from. It said, the preacher said, you're the sinner or we sin, sin, sin. It's interesting, Dr. Ben. I was thinking about the same thing this morning. Romans 3:23 says, all have sinned and came short of God's glory. He didn't say, all have sinned, lost their salvation, going to hell. Now, that's not what it says that particular words. It says, all have sinned and fell short of God's glory. What does that mean? You know, that word sin in Greek is hamartia. We are so action conscious. You know, I did something wrong, but that's not what in Greek. In the real language, the word sin means. In the word hamartia means miss the mark or miss the target or miss the destination. You are traveling. You set out to go somewhere and you missed the you missed the stop and you kept going in a different direction or you're shooting an arrow and that arrow missed the mark. And then they say samartia means you miss the market target. So in, in actual means that words is supposed to be like this, supposed to say like this. All have lost their purpose or missed their mark and fell short of God's standard of life on this earth. And what a way to look at that verse. All have lost their purpose. All have missed their mark and couldn't live the quality of life God originally intended for humanity. That's what actually that verse means. It's not there to make you feel guilty and condemned, not good enough or like you're like living in condemnation. It's supposed to be a wake up call to get back on track and, and, and travel the right direction, find your purpose and continue the journey that God wants us to have on this earth. So that gives us a totally different perspective. So as I travel now, you know, we are, my wife and I, we are traveling full time, living on a suitcase. Last two months we've been to four countries, 10 cities. Everywhere we go, mostly in Africa. Everywhere we go, same problems. Political, economical, social, religious system, it's not working. And people expecting the governments to fix their problem. But governments have no clue what they're supposed to be doing. And they are expecting the church or the preachers or the religious system to solve their problems. But that's not where the problem the solution supposed to come from. As we are sitting here on this podcast, the Cure. You are the cure. We addressed this in the last podcast. What does that mean? You and I carry the solution inside us in our spirit, man. What is that solution? Jesus said the kingdom of God is within you. Luke, chapter 17, verse 21. Jesus Christ said that the kingdom of God is within you. What does that mean? The solution this earth needs is inside each human being, inside each believer. Especially if you are born again, Christ living in you, filled with his spirit. You are supposed to be bringing the solution. So as I went to South Africa, Dr. Ben, we went to the school district because we want to present the G126 movement for children into their school system. So when we went to met meet the authorities, they're like Abraham, we don't know what to do. We are at our limit. We don't know how to handle, manage the children of this generation. We are clueless because can you imagine, Dr. Ben, we spent 12 years. Children spend 12 years in, in basic education and they finish high school, they come out, they don't know what to do with their life. They don't know who they are, they don't know where they came from. And most of them have no idea what they're supposed to do, their life. Some go to college and then they later figure out, oh, this is not what I should have done if I had one more chance, you know, so majority coming out and saying they don't know what they're supposed to do with their life. But 12 years, they spent five days a week, eight hours a day in his classroom, doing What? Doing what? 12 years, not 12 days or 12 months, 12 years of our first season of our life, minimum. Then the rest will go to college. Three years, five years, more than that. And then they come out without knowing who they are, what they're supposed to do with their life. That is the situation everywhere we go, any country we go. The governments have no solution. Religious system has no solution. And. And whatever system that we depended on, it's not doing what it said it would. So people are confused. People are like, afraid. They don't know what is coming, what is going to happen on the earth, economically, politically. You know, people are living in confusion, Christians included. But we have the solution because we have a sure foundation. We are receiving a kingdom that cannot be shaken. Many of you, as I am speaking now, I sense in my spirit to speak to you that you are under tremendous pressure, tremendous pressure. And the tendency, the temptation is to go back. What was used to, don't go back. It's not there anymore. You cannot go back. God didn't bring you out this far. So now you can turn around and go back to Egypt again. Remember the people of Egypt, Israel, when God brought them out of Egypt, they were crying, they were in bondage, slavery for more than 400 years. Finally, God brought them out. And their tendency was. When challenges came, pressure came. They wanted to go back to Egypt, the same place where they came out of. Can you imagine? That is our nature, that is our human tendency. So many of you, I sense in my spirit that I'm speaking directly to you, that you're going through tremendous, immense pressure. You don't know where it is coming from, what is the reason of it, you know, But I want to encourage you. The reason you're feeling is because you're going through this transformation. You know, some people say transition, but transformation of human being, beings. We are going back to the beginning, God's original blueprint or intent. Just like Dr. Ben said, we are going back. We are in the process of going back to the Beginning going back to the hamartiya point where we missed the mark, where we missed our purpose, where we took a deviation. Now God is shaking the whole world system, economic system, political system, religious system, church as we knew it. The religious thing that you used to do, it won't give you the same effect or fulfillment as it did 10 years ago, 15 years ago. It's gone. You're in a different place, spiritually, emotionally, socially, in every way that you are in a different place than any other time you've been in your life. What we need right now is that book that Dr. Ben mentioned, the Mystery of the tree of Life. That is the software that we had, we're supposed to have in the beginning. We lost it, we got downloaded with a virus from another kingdom, the knowledge of good and evil. Now God is unraveling that system that was built on the knowledge of good and evil. If you read Revelation 22, verse 2 and 3, it says talk about the tree of life. This tree of life is being restored with 12 fruits and the leaves of that tree is for the healing of the nations. What is going to heal the nations? The tree of life, its 12 fruits and its leaves. So that's where we are right now, Dr. Ben. We are not feeling, we are not supposed to be feeling guilty and remain contempt, but waking up. We are the greatest awakening humanity has ever witnessed globally. What we see on the news, in the mainstream media, that is a distraction. That is a distraction that distract you from what is actually happening inside you and I. So it's very important to focus and be aware of what is happening but not be driven or distracted by what you hear on the media. Because that's a distraction. That's not real. Words that are real, it is real. But what is happening beneath the surface behind the news media, what is happening in the real world, that is what is important for us right now. And that's why this podcast. We didn't plan this today, but God orchestrated it so that you can hear this, so you can feel the assurance to say that you are at the right place, at the right time, doing the right thing with the right people. Or at least that is the prayer we should be praying that God wants to to bring healing to you first to the original disease, that we missed the mark, we missed our purpose, we missed our relationship with our Father in heaven as a son. And all this crutches came. Religion, churchianity, political system, all this came and we put our trust dependency on those and they are not producing the fruit that we thought they Would now the solution is going back to the beginning. [00:18:52] Speaker A: Amen. And I think that's so important for especially folks who have grown up in religion is always going back in, asking God and pondering and asking the Holy Spirit to show you. But why did God even make the earth? Why did he make man? Why did he put Adam into the garden? Why did he give him authority, dominion over all the earth? You know, what was that point of that? And at the very end, I mean, Abraham's. I think in the last podcast she said you spent decades on the first three chapters of Genesis, but if you turn around and. And I've spent the past year really diving into the last three chapters of Revelation and Abraham mentioned part of that. And the main point I'm making here is it's all about the earth being restored, restored and healed. And the people in the earth, these nations, that leaves of the tree of life are healing to all the nations. And it talks about people in the earth and just there's something about the earth as opposed to. It's all about get to heaven, get to heaven, get to heaven. No, it's about bringing heaven, the culture of the kingdom of heaven, into the physical realm, into the earth, in, into time and space. There's something there, something huge there. And so just that piece of understanding, it's not about escaping out of here. There's something God's trying to do here and he's decided to do it with a family, us. It's that, that right there. You have to chew on that for a long time. If you've always just thought about, I'm just a sinner and luckily Jesus died in my place, so I can get to heaven if I believe in him. And I'm not minimizing Jesus's sacrifice, I'm not minimiz. But what Abraham's talking about, separate, missed the mark, separation, missing the mark. We got separated from our Father in the garden and Jesus came and has brought reconciled us back to our Father. We now can reconnect. We can get closer and closer and closer to that mark and not be missing the mark. And I just want to give a practical example and, and Abraham, you can maybe give a testimony in your life on this, but I've talked to different folks recently on the podcast. One, one gentleman. He was a chef, two movie stars to Tom Cruise and other famous people. But there was something off in his heart and he just knew there was another way and another. It was a calling. It was this purpose he had that God put this, this in him to be. And he left that life to pursue a less glamorous. The money wouldn't be guaranteed. A lot of unknown. A lot of what he did was step out in faith to do what he knew was more beneficial for his kids, for his wife, for his immediate family, but in turn more beneficial for the larger community because of the. The product he's producing now basically is just a very beneficial health product. It's an organ meat blend. And that seems so like niche and maybe just a tiny little thing. And that's one guy. And he made this move in his life to change his career path kind of. But that's an example I think of when each one of us decides to go in a direction where there's no guaranteed revenue stream necessarily. It seems like to me, Abraham, I'll let you comment on this. That orphan mindset, that poverty orphan. I gotta scrounge and scrape and claw and work by the sweat of my brow to provide for myself. And if I don't see a guaranteed income, a good signing bonus, a paycheck or whatever this guaranteed revenue stream, then I'm not moving and I will stay camped out over here even though this thing's stressing me out. But it's a mindset where I think it goes back to not understanding sonship and God is our father and provider and protector. But that's a struggle. It's an invisible promise and an invisible word we're going to trust. And that's just one example of how to actually walk this kingdom thing out in a day to day practical way in your life. God may be calling some of y' all some direction, but you're scared because you have to leave your 401k in the security of the stock market. Not that that's that secure, but you know, that's one example and I know there's others. But Abraham, I'm sure you've. God's called you to things where. Well, how's. Where's the provision for that going to come? And then it comes. [00:23:43] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm a living example of it because I grew up in the religious system. You know, I've been in ministry, what we call ministry, since I was 18 years old. And just like the chef that you're talking about, I was in the religious world building a big ministry and which I did. But I felt like there was something missing inside me, even though externally everything was going well. You know, people thought I was successful. I had a school with 700 children, many buses and cars, and church was growing so fast in the first year itself, we had more than 300 people. And people thought, what's wrong with this? This is what everybody aspired to be. But inside me, there was something missing. That's what Christians get confused. Because they believe just because they go to church on a Sunday morning or they receive Jesus, they are living kingdom life. Now I want to tell you, most of the time we are not. Because we only receive the part of the gospel, a partial gospel, that we got saved waiting to go to heaven, but we got saved to start a new life, to restore us back to our purpose, our identity as sons and daughters in God's kingdom. That is the purpose of salvation. Salvation was never given to anybody as a ticket to go to heaven or an escape from the this earth. That's one of the things that shocked me when I couldn't find anywhere in the Gospels. Jesus asking anyone if they want to go to heaven when they die, it's not there. 4 Gospel, Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, not even owns. Jesus asked an individual, hey, do you want to go to heaven when you die? That means that was not his primary objective or mission. There was something else. He was talking day in, day out, afternoon, anytime. The kingdom of God, seek first the kingdom of God, not first to escape this earth and go to heaven, seek first the kingdom. And that was missing in my life. I didn't know anything about God's kingdom. I grew up in church, went to church four times a week. I didn't know my purpose. I was living hamartia in church, sin in church. A believer living in hamartia missed the mark because I was not living the purpose that God created me to do or fulfill on this earth. So what I had to do, I have to leave everything that I was building because it was wrong foundation. I was building it for the wrong purpose because I was building an identity for myself. Because I didn't know who I was, because my identity was built around performance, how well I performed, how well I kept the commandments. You know, I was talking to a precious brother. He said, I don't sin as much as I did before. This is what this brother said, you know, I don't sin as long as I sinned before I sinned less because I had an encounter with God. I said, oh my gosh. I'm like, I just want to stop him right there. Brother, let me tell you. But he was so zealous, you know, he was so zealous about his. His faith in God, which is good. But that is not the whole story. There is something more. Our identity as sons and daughters in God's kingdom, living with our Father in heaven in a daily basis, moment by moment, that is available to us right now. Not when we get to heaven, but as Jesus said in John 14:23, the Father and him will come and live with us. You get to walk with God right now. That may be too spooky for some people. I'm walking with God. Oh my gosh. I am a poor sinner, saved by grace, right? That is the mindset of most people. But you can, because God became human just like you and I in Christ. Lived among us, felt our pain, felt our emotions, felt our. Our life on this earth so that he can relate with us, so that we can relate with Him. Not somebody up there in the sky with the white beard, with the lightning rolled. No, no, no, Father. Jesus told us to call God our Father, our Daddy in heaven, whom we can approach, whom we can talk to when you need help. If you're sick in your body, why don't you ask God, Father, what is the cure for this thing? What is it happening in my body? What is the root of this issue? Will you please reveal to me? Will you please show me simple prayer like that? It is okay to pray, it's okay to ask Him. And most people don't believe that they can ask God such a thing. Because this religion, mindset, religious mindset people grew up with. Maybe you're a Catholic, maybe you're Baptist, whatever, that you feel like there's a separation between you and God. There's no separation. You are one with God because you came from God. Your spirit. Man came from God. And Paul says, he who is joined with the Lord is one spirit with him, one spirit. Can you imagine your spirit, God's spirit, your redeemed spirit, your born again spirit is one with God. No separation, no distance. He's not up there in heaven or sky. When we think of heaven, we think of distance. Heaven is not about distance. Heaven is about dimension. You close your eyes, you are in heaven right there, right now. It's not about distance. Jesus came to restore that separation, remove that separation and reconcile us back to the Father. And when you talk to God the next time, talk to him as he's your father, that he's walking with you, that you are one with him. Let your vocabulary change. There's a difference between when you talk to somebody 5,000 miles away to somebody who talking next to you, somebody who's sitting next to you, how do you talk to somebody? That's the way we supposed to be Talking to our Heavenly Father as if he's right there with us. Wherever you are right now, maybe you're not feeling well in your body or in your mind, but he's there, right there with you. He's not away from you or distanced from you. He's in you. He's with you because you live in him, breathe in him, and have your being in Him. And that is the message we want to bring to you today through this podcast that that suppression is removed. It's only in our mind that suppression exists in our thoughts, but not in reality. Reality that suppression has been removed. You've been reconciled, you've been adopted, given the right to be a child of God. But we need to grow into maturity, and that's why we are here. Podcast like this Kingdom school courses that we provide in our university. Plenty of courses, plenty of materials, books to help you dive deeper into understanding. Now, what are am I supposed to do as a child of God? How am I supposed to live? What is my identity? What is my right? Authorities, benefits that comes with it. And may the Lord help you and open your eyes to see more and more. I know I'm Talking too much, Dr. Ben, but I just want to encourage our viewers that I feel like majority are still thinking that they're talking to God from a distance. They don't feel that intimacy because they feel they are not worthy, that they are qualified to have a intimate relationship with God because, you know, God is holy and. And unapproachable. No, no, no, no. That is the old covenant God. The new covenant God is Jesus Christ who became flesh, lived among us, walked with us, God with us. Emmanuel, Imman L in man. L in man inside man. L God. God inside humans. That's what Jesus came to show us. So whatever Jesus didn't do to a human, the Father will not do now. Whatever Jesus did not say to a human, the Father wouldn't say it now to an individual because Jesus came to show us the Father, to reveal the Father to us. That's what Jesus said in John 14. He who has seen me has seen the Father because I am in my Father and the Father is in me. So if I could encourage you, one thing through this podcast is God is waiting for you to step into that dimension of life. No distance, no separation, but becoming one with him, walking with him as your father, as an intimate relationship with him. That's what I want to encourage our viewers. [00:34:30] Speaker A: Yeah, that's so good. An intimate relationship with a loving father. That's just so hard for so many people. And I think because a lot have sat under that old gospel of salvation, partial gospel message that God's holy and distant and. And we're just sinners and we're not worthy to be in his presence. And of course, Jesus came, so we can basically not go to hell when we die. And just that whole thing versus going all the way back to the garden where God created Adam and, well, he created everything and it was all good, good, good, good. And then created Adam his son, and he came every day to the garden to walk with Adam. God wanted to be with his son, wanted relationship, wanted this oneness. You know, we're made in God's likeness and image. And that's just so hard for some people to really come to grips with because they'll even think that's like getting close to blasphemy or something, that we can be one with God, we can have the mind of Christ. Even though it says we have the mind of Christ. Can you really be that close? Because basically. Are you saying you're God? What? Abraham just talked about one spirit with him. There is supposed to be this intimate relationship and connection. And then for a purpose, for a reason, God did this, built this, created this, made this relational family for a reason. And so we've got to go deeper in and renew our mind to these truths that Abraham's talking about here for those deeper things. We've been drinking this milk and this partial gospel, and we've missed the deeper things in the meat and. And therefore the fruit that should be being produced hasn't been produced. And we accidentally keep hooking into that old tree, the. The good and evil tree, and that virus, and we haven't cleaned that and rebooted us back to the original software. And so it's just a renewing of the mind that needs to happen. And it's a daily. And that's why I try to take captive every thought, especially if I start to feel heavy or a burden or fear for sure. Then it has to be time out. Literally a timeout. If you need to pause and go to the bathroom, you need to go on a walk, you need to just stop at your desk at work or whatever and close your eyes or just somehow time out, or jot it down in your little journal and do it later if you don't have time, if you're busy working. But if you recognize you had a thought that was based in fear, worry, anxiety, heavy, anything, then later you go talk to your loving father, because that something's off, you're hemartia. You're missing the mark somewhere. There's some belief in your heart that's off that would produce that fruit called fear and heavy and worry and anxiety. And you're. And God wants to show you what that off is in your heart. That's the truth coming into your heart. The light coming into the. And it'll. That light will illuminate the lie that you believe and it'll release that burden and that fear. But it's. Go ahead, Abraham. [00:37:58] Speaker B: Yeah, because as we were talking, this thing keep coming to me because many people think that they are not holy enough, that they are not good enough to come to God. So they have to clean themselves. So they're waiting, one day I'm going to be holy enough to come to God so I can have an intimate relationship. One day I'm going to be, you know, taking care of all my business, overcome this sin or whatever that they are struggling with. But the good news is you come. Jesus did not say clean yourself first and then come. No, come to him, Let him clean you. Yes, let him cleanse you. Because once you come to the light, once you come and have an experience with him, my dear brother sister, everything changes. But as long as you try to clean yourself out there, the longer it takes, the more tedious and more frustrating it becomes because we can't clean ourselves his blood. He's the one that cleanses us because look at the prodigal son. Prodigal son didn't wait. What if he waited to clean himself before he came back to the father? He wouldn't have made it. He would have died in that pig's pen. That would have been end of his life. But he made a decision. In my father's house, there was servants eating and leaving plenty enough and let me go to him. And you know what the father did? That is our heavenly Father. The father ran to meet the Son. In that culture, fathers and people with wealth don't run. Especially in that culture, running to meet somebody that's like out of the picture. But this father ran to the son who has been living with pigs pen for I don't know how long. He might be smelling stinky, but he hugged him, kissed him, brought to his house and the father start to clean his son. He said, bring the best robe. That's the Father's responsibility. Let him cover you. Dear child of God. Not coming out of the self effort or your own attempt to qualify yourself so someday you can feel worthy to come before God. No, no, no, no. He qualified Us, he made us worthy, he made us righteous. Just like Dr. Ben said in the beginning, his righteousness. And when you come to that light, transformation happens, transformation of our heart. And you come out of the dominion of sin. You're not trying to overcome sin on your own or some action or addiction or whatever is troubling you. That thing will fall off on its own. When he touches your life, when you have an experience with him, and how do you have an experience with him? Come to the end of yourself. If you struggle, if you tried everything in your life and it hasn't happened, or you haven't found a solution, you'll say to God, lord, if you don't do something, I'm done. You leave it up to him completely. That's what called surrender means. You give it to him, you fall at his feet, spiritually or even physically. And that is hard for many people to come to a place of dependency. Because we are so self driven people, we try to depend on ourselves. Even when people fall, they don't want somebody's help to lift them up because they want to try to push themselves up. That is the culture that we grew up in. But when you come to God, our trust, that's what it means. Our trust has to be in him and let him take you. I know that is a difficult thing for many people, that surrendering point, giving up to God, the control. Because we like to be in control. We want to know what's going to happen, how much money I'm going to make and where I'm going to live. And we are like the force that drive ourselves. But when we give to God, he becomes that force for us through us, leading us. Then we follow him. He become the shepherd. We are the sheep. The Lord is my shepherd. Psalm 23. Everybody knows that, that psalm, and everybody quotes that psalm from childhood. The Lord is my shepherd. What does that mean? Where the shepherd is taking me, the sheep has to follow. What if the sheep says, no, I don't want to listen to the, I want to do my own thing over there. Then the wolf comes. Who comes? And you know, he start to attack. Then we don't know what to do. But Jesus said, my sheep hears my voice and you follow him. And there is safety, there is security, there is protection in that. So that's what I wanted. Yeah. [00:43:39] Speaker A: But if we live by our five senses, our carnal mind, and we have to have certainty and comfort, we can trust in, in what we can see, touch, taste and feel. My bank account's this big, my 401k is this big. My college kids savings accounts this big. My the gold prices are going up. I can accurately predict my future based off my financial advisors predictions. I've saved up this much and, and all that's just right that we can see, touch, taste, feel and calculate with our left brain intellect. Then we'll say okay I can, I'm good. What if all that's gone, all of it zero and you have to just go about your day today and, and the provision will be there from your father from some, some source, some stream something comes up. You had no idea. And I keep picking on the money thing because that's just an easy one to tangible one and it's a big one in people's lives I think a big source of stress when things are rocky and the economy's crazy and prices are up and all the things and, and man we're just this thing about really being able to trust. I keep going back to invisible, an invisible God, an invisible word and trust these stories in the Bible and trust. Well it's such a heart thing and that going back to relationship and that's why we got to clear up our thoughts about God, his true character and nature so that we truly can trust. We got to see him accurately for who he really is and the enemies. One of his tactics is to cloud our vision, change our thoughts about God and like we've been talking about that he's distant from far away and we're no good and just that whole thing. Abraham, I wanted to get your your thoughts on this. I was at a concert this last weekend. My wife, it was her birthday and she loves this group and I never really heard them much. It's called Red Clay Strays. It's not a overtly Christian group. I'm. They're just a regular you know in the world they're on I think just regular people might say the secular kind of music scene. Sort of a country blues combo. And I never really listened to them that much but she loves them, just loves the music and their voice and the harmony and all the things kind of like Elvis, Johnny Cash sort of combination. Has a trio of ladies in the back harmonizing. I mean just the musical talent she loves. Anyways, found some tickets, went and watched them. This huge arena, huge. All the lights, all the shows, all the stuff. And I'm listening to this guy, I don't even know the guy's name because the name of the band is Red Clay Strays. So the name's not the, the lead singer's name isn't the name of the band. So I don't even know the guy's name, but I'm listening to him and it is beautiful music. And then he starts talking about Jesus a little bit. What he's talking about Jesus in this arena full it's in San Antonio where the San Antonio spurs play. I think that's the Frost Bank Arena. I don't know how many people fit in there, but a bunch. The crowd just erupts in, in positive and cheering. Later he's, he mentions that he's not anyone's preacher or spiritual leader, but God put it in him to be a songwriter and he put musical gifts and talents and he writes songs about his life and God is a part of his life. So his songs talk about that. And he was just vocal about it. He wasn't pushing it on anyone. And I was just listening to this thinking, man, this is such a great example because later I went after the concert, went and looked him up. He was actually on Joe Rogan, this, you know, top podcast in the whole world. And the little clip I heard was basically Rogan saying, man, bands typically don't stay together. How long you think you'll stay together? That's hard being on the road and ban, you know, conflict and people and you just split up and. And the guy said, the lead singer said, basically, I'm paraphrasing. Well, it doesn't have to be hard if you know who you are and you're, you're being who God made you to be and you're just walking in that true identity and you're laying down your life for another. You love your neighbor so much. And he gave the example like when they're on the road traveling in a motel room, if there's five guys in the band and there's only a big bed for four guys, he, the lead singer is going to sleep on the floor. They're going to argue about who's going to take the floor because they, they it's not about themselves. It was just really a powerful thing. And to me, what he said in a two minute clip on Joe Rogan was the gospel message. Loving your neighbor, walking in your true identity, letting that gifting God put in you be manifested in the earth in that arena, it was really powerful. So that's just a total different picture [00:49:13] Speaker B: of [00:49:15] Speaker A: we're sinner, sinner, sinners believe in Jesus and get baptized tonight so you don't go to hell when you die. When God just wants us not to be separated, he wants Us to see him clearly, trust him, come to him, be in relationship, hear his voice, trust that voice, know who you are, know what your purpose and your calling, your true identity, those gifts and talents. And don't be scared to be on a stage in front of 50000 people that's supposedly a secular environment and speak the truth in love. It wasn't preachy, it wasn't some religious thing. He was genuine and it impacted that crowd more than any religious gospel salvation message would have. I believe it was awesome. It really touched my heart. So just wanted to share that and any, any thoughts you have in that. [00:50:03] Speaker B: I, I always encourage people when you discover your purpose, your identity, then your calling. And when you walk in that calling, nobody else can fit in that slot that God has for you. So is with everybody else. That's why there's no need of any competition or place of jealousy or envy in God's kingdom. Because everybody is important, everybody is equal in this assignment. But different function, a different calling, a different gift that we bring to the table. But when we all work together, function as a family in his kingdom, accomplishing that's when we take territories for God. But there's so much of competition and envy and jealousy out there, even among Christians because they don't know their place yet. They are trying to be like somebody else or they're trying to come or they're comparing themselves with somebody else, wishing if they had what they have. No, no, no. You have everything that you need already deposited in you back going back to the, to the title of the show is you are the cure. Remember you are the cure. You are the piece of the puzzle that God is waiting and the world is waiting and the earth is waiting. I know many of you have read this book, the mystery of the tree of Life. Thank you for ordering it from Amazon from our website. That's only the beginning. We have so many courses that is available on the kingdomuniversity.org Discovering your purpose, your calling and gifts. Actually there is a course with that name Discovering purpose, calling and gifts and it is free. The good news is it is free. You can go now to the kingdomuniversity.org and sign up for that course and you will get a book and a study guide free with it. And there are so many other courses that you can take. God's original design dealing with our identity and God's original blueprint. All these courses, training that is available that I would encourage you to go and make use of the resources that God has given to us that we are sharing with the world. And I know Dr. Ben, you are going to talk about the two conferences that is coming up early next year. Please go ahead and [00:52:45] Speaker A: yes, thank you for the reminder because I was going to forget honored Abraham and John and I have never met in person. But we're going to the first weekend of February and let me just get the date here on that. This is in 2027. So that's going to be February 5th and 6th and I don't have every detail like the time and the location, all that but we'll be getting that to you between now and February. But it's in outside of Orlando, Florida basically. And we're going to have a two day conference there, Abraham, John and I. And then there's Dr. Goolsby who's a local physician there. He's a chiropractor, Kingdom minded, amazing guy. There may be some others speaking but I know Abraham and I will be speaking there. I'm super excited about that so would love for y' all to come there. And again we'll have the details on how to get a ticket and the website to sign up and all that kind of thing. Or you can always just email our clinic info veritasmedical.com and then later in the spring and this will be in Indiana for those in the Midwest. We love to see you in April and that's going to be April 26th and 27th and that is the Kingdom Wellness Conference and that's going to be super good too. So excited for both of those and we'll have the website for that too in the show notes. So April, excuse me, I think I was looking in March. That's April 23rd and 24th in Indiana. The Kingdom Wellness Conference. It's going to be a great, great talk. So Abraham, I look forward to being there with you and learning more from you. And guys, I would highly recommend going to Abraham John's website. They have so many amazing resources and there is a lot to learn. I was going to say relearn but kind of like in medicine I learned a lot in conventional medical training and I still use some of that. I mean there's some usefulness a little bit and then I continue to learn outside of the conventional institutional model. So there's just a lot of knowledge we've weren't taught. I'm trying to teach my kids at a young age and just imagine where they're going to be by the time they're 50 because they got some deeper truths earlier on on identity, you know the truth about God's character and nature and the truth about why he even created mankind to begin with in a son and a family. And the restoration of all the creation, all the earth being restored in heaven, coming back to earth. I mean, so much truth. It'll be transformative for these kids. And Abraham Jones got. He mentioned the G126 movement and he's taken that into South Africa, Mozambique, Zimbabwe. Not Zambia. I believe it is. [00:55:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:55:47] Speaker A: Yeah. Abraham didn't speak much about that tour. He's been on living out of a suitcase for two months. But I've seen a lot of videos. He and his team are doing amazing work. His wife Claudia, just bringing the kingdom truth to so many places. So I know he won't plug it, but I'm going to. To support him. And Abraham, John doesn't. He trusts God for provision. I know that for sure. But those of you out there who have provision in terms of financial means and you feel led to support someone out on the front line bringing the gospel of the kingdom to places. Well, airplane tickets cost money. They cost more money now than they used to. And food costs money and books cost money and all the production that goes into a website and a team and all the things. So there's obviously that piece of it. And I'd. If y' all feel so led and you've learned and benefited from Abraham John, I'd love for y' all to consider supporting him. Praying about that. Jamie and I do. And we think it's one of the greatest things that we can do with extra resource God gives us. And guys, I'm just for a second, if you have extra resource. Sorry, I'm been talking about money this whole time and it's been a journey for me in this. But I'm at a point, if there's extra in at the end of the month, I'm asking where does this need to go? And I'm not trying to puff myself up like I'm some great saint giving money away. I mean, literally when money comes in, then it's. I feel like it's assigned to go somewhere. And a lot of that goes to my employees paychecks. We got to pay the light. Light bill and we gotta. I got six kids. I mean, we have daily bills. And if there's extra, my immediate thought is, why do I have this extra? And where's it supposed to go? It's like a distribution center. Things are just flowing through like a grocery store. The farmers make all the food and bring it to the grocery store. But the grocery store just comes in the back door. It goes out the front door. It's just a distribution that the stream keeps flowing. We don't need to to put a dam on that and hold it back and for a whatever purpose. So I would encourage y' all to consider that God will meet your need in the moment you have it. And it. There's more freedom in just going day to day than asking the Lord not just money, but all your needs for that day. And you have all everything it in his house is yours. You're his son. And all you need for life and godliness, it's available for you. But when it comes to that financial thing, I would encourage y' all not don't hoard. That's part of this kingdom flow of, of everything is don't just hoard things. So let, let it flow and be prayerful about where it flows to support your regenerative ag people in your hometown that are producing great food from a regenerated farm. You know, support people outside the traditional economies like Christian health share ministries where you share the burden of health cost with your fellow brothers and sisters. There's so we'll talk about that in other podcasts. Share with teachers and ministers of the gospel of the kingdom like Abraham. So I just want to spend a minute doing that Abraham, but your website, thank you for all you do. The books you, you produce. You asked me what new book I'm reading. I said, well I, I haven't got to the new one because I'm reading the same one over and over because it's so rich. It's so good. So good. I have so many people tell me the same thing. So thank you for being obedient. I know it's a lot to write a book and you've written like 50 million of them. And so I just can't believe all the content you produce. It's incredible. So y' all go check that out. And Abraham, anything to wrap it up, feel free. [00:59:38] Speaker B: Well, thank you. Thank you Dr. Ben and your precious wife Jamie for your partnership. My wife and I, we sold everything. We didn't have much. We just had a car. That was our mission from God. We just sold. We are full time traveling from nation to nation, city to city, preaching the gospel of the kingdom and thank you for partnering with us and if you are one of those person that God is speaking to, partner with us in this journey of taking this truth new gospel that Jesus preached the gospel of the kingdom to the nations. People are hungry, nations are waiting and we are going. Will you come with us? Will you send your resources, some of the resources that you have estra like Dr. Ben was talking about. Go to our website, the kingdom network.org the kingdom network.org Go to the donate page choose a category General ministry fund or whatever G1 to D6 for children send a seed, Sow a seed. If this broadcast has been a blessing all the previous ones I know you've been blessed all these books. Sow a seed and and send us to the nations because we are going. October 6th we are jumping on an airplane again going back to South Africa from there to Zambia, going to other countries all over all over the world wherever God opens the door. So thank you for your prayers. Thank you for your considering to support us because it's a good soil. I promise it won't go vain. It will produce fruit for God's kingdom. So thank you Dr. Ben for your prayers, support, recommendation and this opportunity to be with you. Each time when I come to share I always feel this is a. This is from the Lord so appreciate you much. [01:01:37] Speaker A: Well, you're welcome. Thank you. Love to Claudia. We'll be praying for yalls journey and that the Lord goes before you and opens many doors so that freedom can come to the earth because Jesus bought and paid for us to walk in that freedom. So thank you, thank you. Can't wait to have you back again. And guys, this will be as always on our website and all the podcast platforms, YouTube, Veritas, WellnessMember.com share it with all your friends and we'll see you back next week with another great show. [01:02:10] Speaker B: Bye bye.