What’s Really in Your Beef | Mollie Engelhart

November 02, 2026 • 01:01:33
What’s Really in Your Beef | Mollie Engelhart
You’re the Cure w/ Dr. Ben Edwards
What’s Really in Your Beef | Mollie Engelhart

Nov 02 2026 | 01:01:33

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Can we vote our way out of the mess we’re in? Mollie Engelhart of Sovereignty Ranch in Bandera, Texas doesn’t think so. Neither does Thomas Massie, who told the crowd at the Weston A. Price Wise Traditions conference that your votes aren’t being stolen at the ballot box. They’re being stolen on the first day of Congress.

Mollie and Dr. Ben sit down fresh off that conference to talk about what’s actually happening, what’s being done about it, and why the real revolution looks a lot more like buying a half a cow from your neighbor and trading peaches for raw milk than anything happening in Washington.

They also go deep on an article Mollie published that almost nobody in mainstream media would touch. At a conference in North Dakota, a cattle industry insider showed her a research poster she couldn’t believe was real. 19% of steers and over 50% of heifers in conventional beef production are lactating at the time of harvest. She went down the rabbit hole. She reached out to the researchers. She published the findings. And then the silence was deafening from every major outlet on both sides.

The episode covers the estrogen and hormone implants used throughout conventional cattle production, why the researchers say it’s actually obesity causing the lactation, why Mollie isn’t convinced without a control group, and what all of this excess estrogen exposure means for human health downstream.

Then they pivot to what Sovereignty Ranch is actually doing. No antibiotics. No vaccines. Holistic planned grazing. Cows eating a diverse range of plants from land that gets healthier every year. And a restaurant where people walk in and feel the presence of God before they even order.

This one is wide ranging, honest, and worth your time.

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Episode Transcript

[00:00:02] Speaker A: Hey guys. Welcome to another episode of you're the Cure. Great show today. Our repeat three peat, Molly Englehart back for her third time with us. I love Molly down there. Sovereignty Ranch. It's a great crew down there. If you haven't ever been to Sovereignty Ranch outside of Bandera, Texas, I'd highly recommend it. We'll jump right in with Molly here in a second. We talk about everything from Thomas Massey and Joe Ladapo. Joe's a surgeon general in Florida. They were both keynote speakers at this Weston A. Price conference, a Wise traditions conference last weekend or two weekends ago. Molly and I were speakers there also. So we're going to talk about their keynotes, what they were talking about. We're talking about an article Molly wrote a couple months ago, Lactating Steers. You're not going to believe this, guys. Lactating Steers. We talk Kingdom Empire. It's a great interview. But before we jump into that, real quick, the announcements. Divine Health Coach Conference, Divine Health Body, Soul and Spirit, February 5th and 6th, Coco, Florida. That's just outside of Orlando, just east of Orlando. Excited to be sharing the stage there with Abraham John. And Dr. Grady Goolsby is going to be hosting us there. So that'll be a fantastic conference, guaranteed. Abraham's an amazing teacher, an amazing man of God. I've never met Abraham in person, had him on the show a lot of times. But this will be my first time to meet him and I'm super excited to hear him teach. And I'll be teaching also. So that's February 5th and 6th. Shilohministries.com is where you can get your tickets. Seating is limited, so jump on there and get that done ASAP. Next Kingdom Wellness Conference Kingdom Wellness Events.info is the website. You can read all about it. That's Dr. Joyce Maxwell Downs. I met Dr. Joyce at Seeking Whole Health couple years ago. Had the honor to visit with her again last year at Seeking Whole health. But anyways, Dr. Joyce has been called by the Lord to put on a Kingdom conference in Indiana, Plymouth, Indiana, at the Swan Lake Resort. It's going to be a great conference. April 23rd and 24th. So go to Kingdom Wellness events.info and get your tickets. I think seating is limited on that also. Matthew Gay will be speaking there. I'll be speaking. Abraham John will be speaking and we'll have a lot of good speakers. You can see the whole lineup on the website. Dr. Brian Spillman, the dentist, I've had him on the show a couple times, so that'll be a great conference too. And of course, Seeking Whole Health is always a great conference. April 16th and 17th in Wooster, Ohio. So check that out as well. Okay guys, and just real quick, the New year's gonna be here for you know it. We're gonna restart a 90 day reset. Those, those seats will open up sometime in December, but we're going to launch that again in January. If you did not get in on the 90 day reset, I know we had to close that. We sold out last time. But we'll be launching that again in the new year, so get ready for that. And for all of our wellness members, we're going to launch the 30 Days of Real Food starting at the first of the year too. So if you're not a member, I highly encourage you to jump on their veritas wellnessmember.com and sign up. Our goal is to teach you how to not need a doctor. You can get a comprehensive blood panel on there. You can get a one hour consult with that blood panel. One of our navigators will interpret all that blood work for you and show you that your cholesterol that's high might actually be beneficial and good for you. The people with highest cholesterol live the longest. It's not about high or low. It's about inflamed or not inflamed. And our blood panel actually pulls that LDL and analyzes it to see is it inflamed LDL or not inflamed ldl. And if it's not inflamed, hallelujah. And it doesn't matter if that LDL is 120, 130, 140, as long as it's the right kind. So that's available through our membership, of course, all the weekly live wellness community groups, quarterly initiatives. I do like Q A every month for our members and just a library of content. Classes on diabetes, autoimmune disease, SIBO or ibs, acid reflux, depression. So it's a lot of content but also so a lot of support. And the wellness navigators are there for you. Peace pillar consults are available through that for no extra charge. So we just want to get the word out. We've got 10amazing wellness navigators that want to continue to walk with people to help them be set free and walk in true wholeness. That's what it's all about. Teaching. Teaching you kingdom truth to walk in wholeness. So spread the word. Friends, family, church members, your bosses. We do do corporate wellness. Also go to flourishxv.com. and if you need health insurance or health sharing, you need a more affordable plan or a plan that's better tailored to suit your needs. If you're getting more to root causes and there are corporate opportun through flourish to get insurance and and health share. Check out the podcast I did with Josh Hilr a few weeks ago. But really want to support him what he's doing. It's a kingdom minded program there. So anyways guys, I think that's it for the announcements today. Love you. See you next time. Enjoy the interview with Molly Engelhardt. Hey guys, welcome to another episode of you're the Cure. We're gonna have a great conversation today with a repeat guest. I think this may be the third time we've had Molly Englehart on the show to today. So excited. [00:05:26] Speaker B: First time, not the last time. [00:05:28] Speaker A: Yeah, three peak. We were at Weston A Price this last weekend in D.C. it's a great conference. She and I were just talking before we hit record and we'll have some of that conversation here on the recording. But wanted Molly to come back on. She wrote an article a month or two or three ago about lactating steers and we're going to get to that. Wild and crazy. But one of the things I love about Molly is she loves the truth and she loves people and she's, she woke up a long time ago to the division versus Unity, Kingdom versus Empire, as Jamie Winship would say. So I love that about Molly. She loves the truth. And she and I were just talking because I was running a little late to get here. In downtown Lubbock today, some of the roads were blocked because President Trump's going to be here today doing a rally, trying to rally the support for the vote for his candidate for Texas Senate. And that led to a little conversation. Then I thought we could just continue here live. But the question I had is, Molly, do you think we can vote ourselves out of this thing? And I think a lot of people are waking up to the fact that probably not. And I don't want to offend anybody. I've said for a long time, you know, my great, great, great, great, great, great. I think 11 greats. Granddad came over on the Mayflower and was elected governor 30 times in a row, 30 years in a row of Plymouth Colony, William Bradford. And he said the only government that'll work in this new world, which actually wasn't new, but is God's truth or God's law written on the hearts of men. And the number one law that Jesus said was love your neighbors, love God, love your neighbors yourself. So I think Bradford knew how to get along with others, respect others, walk in, in unity and not division. And in fact, the. They love their neighbors so much that some of the crew on the Mayflower and the other ships that were dying once they landed, and they weren't part of the Plymouth Brotherhood or, you know, the congregation, but the congregation went to those dying sailors and captain of the ships and tried to nurture them back to. To. Well, and the Native Americans observed this and other behaviors of Bradford and his colleagues. And the chief of the natives, I forget his name, came to Bradford, this is after some number of months, but came to Bradford and said, I want to have a treaty with you. You're different than any other white man that showed up here. I can tell that you love your neighbor and you love God, the creator that we believe in. It looks like you believe in him too, and you're loving your neighbor even though they're dying and they're not part of your clan. So that's powerful. So I want people to remember that when it comes to the country and patriotism and voting and, I mean, we're in a mess and so much is being revealed right now. And it's hard. It's hard. It's easier put your hand in, head in the sand and ignore some of this stuff or just hope it goes away, or you hope you can vote your way out of it. And again, don't want to offend anybody. But this is such a deeper issue, I believe. And that's a lot of this revelation that's coming to light of the corruption, the blackmail, and there's got to be a better way. So there are individuals who are doing powerful things in the earth right now on a individual, neighbor to neighbor basis. And a lot of that is in the regenerative agriculture space. I was speaking at a conference a few weeks ago with Alan Williams. It was amazing. Maybe we'll get into some of that incredible stuff he's doing and a lot of his farmers and ranchers are doing and what Molly's doing down at Sovereignty Ranch in Bandera, Texas, which I highly recommend y' all go visit, go to the restaurant, hang out, get some R R, just unplug out at the ranch. Molly can talk more about that, but just want to highlight Molly and her family and her crew down there. They're doing incredible things. And she's trying to build, as many others are trying to build, a coalition of people who love each other and are trying to steward God's creation in a way that's glorifying to the creator and beneficial for the people. So, Molly, welcome to the show. So glad to have you back. Thank you. Thank [00:09:41] Speaker B: you so much. So back to the question, can we vote our way out of this? I don't think that we can. I actually think that the idea, the red, blue, my team, your team, is like an operation of division, weapons of mass division. And that we are, we're just dividing everybody into these categories. And the very thing, I'm conservative by values. Like I believe in marriage, I believe in God, I don't believe in abortion. Like I'm conservative by my values. But I just see right now conservative team, the red team, that essentially my team is spending millions of dollars to diminish telo and that's bleeding into my children's YouTube. So my 9 year old is coming to me and saying, mom, what's a non binary God? Well, God is everything. So I think they're just saying that he's everything, he encompasses everything. And then two days later, mom, what's a Christian that hates Christianity? And I'm like, lord, this is, this is my team indoctrinating my children. Does, does he hate Christ? Does he hate the Bible? Does he hate himself? Honey, he doesn't hate any. He's not a Christian that hates Christianity. He's just in a competition and two men are competing and they're just saying bad things about each other in order to win the competition. And then, mom, what is it to stand for? Trans rights. And this is getting into kids. You're signed into YouTube Kids and they're watching like a science thing. And this is like my team that doesn't want kids to know about these ideas. And so I'm just starting to think we've lost the plot. Like we literally have lost the plot when this is happening. My 11 year old said, I just don't even know about this Telorico, if he's a good man or a bad man. Every five seconds someone's telling me he's wonderful or someone's telling me he's horrible. And then they said, are you going to vote for him? I said, probably not. I'm going to vote for the other guy. And they said, oh, he had adultery. I said, do you know what that is? They said, no, but it sounded very bad. And something about child molesting, letting a child molester go. I said, do you know what that is? Nope, but they sounded bad and I don't think you should vote for them. But these are the ideas in this war, this mudslinging war that is getting to our children when we claim we are the team that doesn't want our children to know these ideas. Do you know what I mean? [00:12:16] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:12:16] Speaker B: And. But all of that is, this is all the. The world of men. And the truth is we are all God's children. And the truth is we all have the opportunity to grow and evolve and change our mind. And Lord knows I have. And so I think that as long as we're saying, like, you're a Democrat, I'm a Republican, you're this, I'm that, we can't all say, you know what, I want healthy food for my children. I want soil that creates nutrient density. I think there's things that are beyond red and blue. I think everybody wants clean water, healthy food, you know, access to a healthy world where we are informed. We have informed consent. What is in our products, what's in our. Going into our mouth, what we're spreading on our body, what's in our cars. Like, we all want informed consent, and we just don't have it anywhere. And both teams really are just for the money, for team money. And we as the people can be for Team God. And there's more of us than there is of them. And so. But only in seeing ourselves as the whole, as God's children. Our Father, who art in heaven, like, we are all his children, and so can we be that together instead of falling for all the deception that is being dropped everywhere, including Crunch Labs, children's YouTube channel. [00:13:46] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. I've become much more sensitive to tactics of division. And it. It can be so sneaky because once I can look like, hey, these are things I believe in, and the other sides, those are things I don't believe in. But. But the manner we go about it and the judgment involved, we've got to, I think, have more discernment because these are tools of, like you said, weapons of mass division. Before we hit record, we were talking about the J6 pipe bomber. And I don't know that we want to go on a huge tangent here, but just it's so kind of unthinkable for some people that this could even be. But it seems pretty obvious. This guy that they're saying did it, autistic, African American young man. Now, it came out, I think, last week. There's a video of him across town at the exact time they're saying he's planting the bomb. But now there's video evidence and. And then there's a reporter that's Talking about coming inside job type of deal and how in the world could it be an inside. Well it goes to the division thing. It's. We've got to stay divided. We've got to keep the blue people and the red people fighting each other, hating each other. And, and that's just one example of how I [00:14:59] Speaker B: wonder if any of our, any of the rebellions, at least in my lifetime, were they natural. So okay, we as a society, we went to war for George Floyd and almost nothing for the Epstein victims. And to me it's like it feels like when we are brought to the edge and the protesting and the whatever, is any of it ever really natural and emerges or are we being manipulated emotionally for some greater gain when we actually do rise up? Because you see things that you're like, oh we, why are, where's, where are black lives matter for this kid that or he's a 30 year old man, autistic person who by all accounts it could not be this person. He's like super organized, has the same routine every single day, goes to 711 walks, wears his Crocs, changes shoes. He has like very much autistic behavior patterns that have to go a certain kind of way. His mother saying there's no way he was planning the pipe bombing and all of these things. But where is black lives matter on this? Because we're not being emotionally manipulated to love him and identify with him. It's not happening. And so I wonder how much of all of the things that we've thought we rose up for and we believed in, was it real or was it for some greater gain or some distraction from something else? And I don't know. And that's a big conspiracy theory to kind of blur out. But that's where I'm at like full on discernment at this point. Like I, I don't know anything. When I was 25 I knew everything and now I'm just considering everything and looking and observing because I can't tell you that I know anything anymore. [00:16:57] Speaker A: Yeah, I've heard it so many times this past few years, really since COVID everything I thought I knew to be true was a lie. And it takes a humble heart and you know, as Jesus that uses word metanoia. But the, that is a thought of being willing to change your mind, go beyond your old way of thinking. And we need a lot more of that. We need some humbleness and ability to realize, yeah, the things I thought I knew for sure. That was a Mark Twain quote. It ain't what you don't know that gets you in trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so. So yeah, [00:17:31] Speaker B: me and you both had our own doses of that in our life. So. [00:17:35] Speaker A: Yeah. Yep. Well, I know you just wrote an article on Joseph Latipo. He was a keynote speaker at the Western Price Conference at Wise Traditions this last weekend. And I just want to make a quick comment there. He and I were on a group text during COVID and I don't know him real well. He had to get off the group text when he got tabbed by DeSantis, surgeon general for Florida. But really bright guy. Ph, MD, PhD. He was at UCLA at the time. Covid was kind of rolling out and per his, his testimony at the, in his speech at the conference, the only reason he was able to speak the truth about COVID and maintain his position at UCLA was was because he had so much money wrapped up in NIH grants that he had been awarded at UCLA and if they let him go, they'd let that money go is what he said. So that was interesting. And he totally woke up on the whole Covid thing early and was outspoken and has continued to be outspoken. But for him to continue in his conversation about other things that he wasn't quite as in line with the Wesley Price type of teaching, mainly on saturated fat, but his wife was. And his, the main theme of his talk was his wife's intuition versus Joe's kind of intellect and academia and evidence based approach to things and not, not saying one to the exclusion of the other. But the intuition thing has traditionally kind of been set aside. Hey, we don't follow our gut feeling. We follow the science and the evidence and the published data. And part of my talk on the measles was I started out by quote after quote after quote of previous editors of British Medical Journal, the Lancet, FDA commissioners who all in these quotes basically said this scientific evidence based medicine has been corrupted. I went through a number of studies that pointed to that. So that's kind of the issue if you're too narrow minded looking only for academic intelligent people to tell you what to do. And Joe was confessing that my wife has intuition and she basically makes the health decisions for our home, for our diet and for our kids health. And it was just fascinating. And his a little bit trying to come to the truth on cholesterol and saturated fat. He was talking about that journey that he was on to understand more about that and the use of statins, probably inappropriately for primary convention prevention. But my point Being. We've got this academic guy, you know, Surgeon general, super smart, and we have his wife at home in the background in the shadows, loving the kids, nurturing the kids, feeding the kids, making health decisions for the kids. More in line with the truth than what the institutions are. It was just mind blowing for me. I mean, not. I mean, I've understood this for a while, but to hear a man on stage just, you know, come right out and say that was refreshing, but also sad, because how many people are following those institutional guidelines that need to be updated? I'll say. But what were your thoughts from that? [00:20:42] Speaker B: I liked that he gave praise to his wife and that her intuition was right on. And I'm. What I guess that I'm shocked about is, you know, we exist in this world now where we go to these conferences, we go to this thing, we hear all these miracle stories who are healing themselves. And so in my world, it's like that's tenderling out into the rest of the world. And I went to the dentist yesterday, and my one daughter has a ton of cavities, and I've been treating her for parasites. I've been, you know, me and you talked about some of her skin conditions that you thought were parasites, and we did treat her for parasites, and those skin conditions have gone away. She. But she still has cavities, and they want to remove two of her baby teeth and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, okay, we're talking about it. And I said, but ultimately, like, we have to figure out what's going on underneath. Why she eats a pretty healthy diet. Less sugar than the average, for sure. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Like, what is it? There's something going on. And he was. The dentist looked at me and said, no, she just has cavities. She has crowding. We'll deal with it. There's no problem. And I was like, imagine this guy is a doctor, and he's like, there's no problem. Like, you're. You have four kids, they have a similar diet. One's teeth are rotting out of its head. The others are fine. No, it's just. That's what happens. And I. And I said, well, I have really bad periodontal disease. My parents have really bad periodontal disease. It could be something. I don't have any cavities, but I could maybe have passed on some bacteria, some. Something that. Some microbiology deficiency. I was vegan for years, and he was like, periodontal disease comes from smoking or diabetes. And I was like, well, I don't have diabetes. I don't smoke. And I struggled with it for years, and I. And I just couldn't believe how this. And I was like, this cannot be my dentist. I need to find another dentist. Like, we moved from L. A, and I haven't found the right one here. But I just. I think that in my world, I'm like, everybody's waking up a little bit. Everybody knows that there's these other things that are contributing factors, but no, literally, like, the largest dentist in Bernie. Apparently, there's no. Nothing to be curious about. Just drill the cavities out, pull the baby teeth, and it's fine. We'll manage the crowding with braces. There's no problem. [00:23:17] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. That's exactly the same with medicine. I mean, it's all about symptom management. We're looking at the bombs gone off, and we're just trying to manage those symptoms and never, never talk about root causes. And it's the same in dentistry, unfortunately. Maybe before we get into article on the steers lactating, because I definitely want to go there and highlight and highlight what you are doing at Sovereignty Ranch, too, but my flight got delayed last weekend and I missed Thomas Massie's presentation, and we were talking offline. You've been talking to him a little bit, but talk about a man that's been in the system. Going back to our first question of can we vote our way out of this? I think someone asked him that from the crowd. You said, [00:24:00] Speaker B: yeah. So someone asked from the stage, can we vote our way out of this? And he was like, no, we cannot. And he said, ultimately, you can pick new people, and they don't know what they're doing. They're new. They get in there. And the reality is, you guys think your votes are being stolen at the ballot box. They're not. They're being stolen on the first day of Congress when people essentially hand their voting card over to their party and just have blind loyalty and these huge ammunous omnibus bills, and nobody's reading them and. And nobody really knows how to manipulate the system or work the system. And they're just. He called them. They're just workers in the sausage factory. They're not trying to change the recipe for the sausage. And so he said that his greatest atrocity was not letting the Epstein files out or speaking out against war and foreign wars and money, but it was ultimately learning how to work the system and learning how to force the hand and working across the aisle, not being fully beholden to the two Party system. But he said that we have to have little acts of non compliance. And he was giving examples like a guy bought a half a cow from him with of gold. And then he was talking about he trades peaches for raw milk. And we have to operate outside the system as much as possible and create these community connections. And he's like, but then also when there's gross misuses of government money, we have to kind of push against this system. And he's like, for example, tsa, I don't comply to the photograph. And then he goes, and my wife never goes through the scanner. She's never been through a scanner. And I yell, me neither. And then a bunch of other people from the audience is like, me neither. Me neither either. And so he was talking about we need a me neither movement instead of a me too movement. And we've been texting a little bit back and forth about it and a list and coming up with like a hundred items of ways that we can push back and create new systems. And whether that is spending cash, lending each other money. So it's not adding, you know, when you lend someone money, we're not adding imaginary money to the system. Whereas when we borrow from a bank, we're depreciating everybody else's money every time we do that. So like personal loans or owner financing, buying with precious metals, not complying to tsa, but we're putting them into categories. And anyways, so the idea is that we want to start a me neither movement where we really just. I don't buy meat from the grocery store. Me neither. And we can get everybody across the country to participate in pushing back against the government overreach in every area of our lives. And so we're trying to kind of come up with 10 or eight or five things in different areas of our life where people can mean either with us. [00:27:01] Speaker A: Yeah, that is awesome. Well, maybe let's dive off into that. What you just said, the meat. And there's a lot to talk about there. Buying a cow directly from a Thomas Massie type farmer or a Sovereignty ranch, or we have many local ranchers around here, we can talk about that. But. But also. And there's so many reasons to do that. Not only to support the people stewarding the land and the animal the right way, but the nutrient density of that. That's a whole lecture. I heard a PhD out of Utah State University at a conference recently, and he showed the phytonutrient content, the vitamin content, the mineral content, all this nutritional profile of a cow Who'd been eating on land that's been mob grazed basically, or regeneratively versus conventional. It was unbelievable. Talk about let food be your medicine. The amount of quote unquote medicine in that beef that we would consume and therefore get that medicine was off the chart compared to conventionally raised meat. So, I mean, we can talk about that for sure, but just the things that are being put into the conventional beef. Who knows what all that is from mRNA? I don't even know. I haven't looked lately if they're doing that with the beef yet. [00:28:14] Speaker B: Not yet. I don't think so, [00:28:16] Speaker A: but the hormones. So take it away. Talk to us about conventionally beef versus regeneratively grown. [00:28:26] Speaker B: So I was at the Teddy Roosevelt Museum for a talk in North Dakota. And I'm standing, it's like, beautiful day out, looking over the badlands. I did my talk. Someone walks up to me and he's like, awesome. I love the cattle industry. I was in it for a while. I said, awesome. He said, what's. What do you think is the craziest thing about the cattle industry? And I was like, I don't know, the cost of processing. And then he was like, well, how about that? 19% of steers are lactating at the time of harvest. And I was, no, I would know if that was happening. And so he goes to his phone and he finds this poster from a study done by West Texas and Merck, Texas A&M and Merck. And the poster says, unforeseen outcomes are unintended consequences. And then it's talking about lactating steers and lactating heifers. And for those of you that aren't cattle farmers, a heifer is a bovine that is born and is a female but has not yet had a baby. A cow is a bovine that has already had a baby. And so when a heifer gets pregnant, she's a first time heifer and becomes a ca calf, becomes a cow when she calves. So heifers should not be lactating either. And they're lactating at like 55%. So I am mind blown. We literally have transgender cows at 19% in our feed supply. This cannot be possible. So I asked him to text me and he's like a little reluctant. I like, grab his phone and text myself this photo that he took at a conference. He took the picture of the student poster from the study. So I asked chatgpt and it says, absolutely not. 19% of dairy cross steers are not lactating. At the time of harvest. 15% of natives are not lactating at the time of harvest. So then I upload the photo to chat cbt. I said, I need you to scrape the Internet and find the rest of the study for me. And it was from this Plains something conference. And I get the whole study. And it's not a secret. They didn't hide it. It's just siloed in industry and in. So I go way down this rabbit hole and I cannot believe that this could be possible. I cannot believe, and I immediately assume it's the growth hormones and the estradiol and the trembling acetate and the 0 xerodol zeritol that is causing it. I published my first article with that hypothesis and all the links to the everything. And the researchers reach out or I reached out to the researchers for comment. The researchers reach out and tell me that my hypothesis is wrong. It's 100% in their mind, antiposity. So for people that don't know weird words from medical stuff, that means excess fat. So their concept, which also could be scientifically plausible, is that at 30% carcass, overall body fat is fat. 30%. The fat itself is turning into an endocrine organ and is creating estrogen. And that is what's causing, in their mind, what's causing the lactation. So they're saying it's just a byproduct of having the best beef. And I want to say best beef in quotation marks that America has ever had, we're having 15% prime. This is amazing. The results that we're getting, the size of the carcasses we're getting, this is amazing. And I said, well, do we have a control group without the ear implants? And they said, no, because they're ubiquitous. Why would we want a control group? We're never going to stop using them. So we don't need a control group. So I feel like we've heard this kind of logic in the past. [00:32:41] Speaker A: Yes, we have. [00:32:42] Speaker B: Oh, well, it would be on. It would be unethical to not let the other group get the vaccine because what if the vaccine works and then they die from like, wait, we just had no control group because it's unethical? Like, that's the kind of. But this is a financial motivator. So here are the facts as I understand them. They believe it's antiposity. I believe that antiposity can be a contributing factor. And I believe that we could both come to the scientific study with our preconceived notion and prove it. I bet that it would be very hard to bring a grass fed animal, even if you start feeding them grain at the end of their life and you bring their antiposity up to 30%, I bet it would be very, very hard to get them to lactate. And it may not. They may not lactate at a thinner size with the implants. So we could both come to this study with our preconceived notions and probably prove our idea right. But without a control groups, without the ear implants, there is plenty of control groups that are not 30% fat. That's a high level of fat. So. But without the other control group, we're not really proving anything by pulling back the fat and saying they don't lactate. And then I talked to my friend Derek Josie, who's a traditional conventional dairy farmer. They are not allowed to use the growth implants at all. That's not allowed in dairy. And he said he has seen heifers, not steers, but he's seen heifers lactate prior to being pregnant or having a baby because dairy cattle are pulled off of their mothers. So these are dairy cattle also, the ones that are in the higher percentages. So natives were at 15, 14 point something, something, and dairy crosses were at 19 point something, something. He's saying you're pulling the baby off of its mother at a, hours, minutes after it's born, searching for comfort. They suckle on each other. So there's manual stimulation as well. So in order to get a trans man to lactate, in the human trials, we give estradiol, we do manual stimulation and we encourage some weight gain. So I would just assert that we've put the same protocols into place and we're cutting off their balls. So we've put the same protocols in the place that we are for trans men lactating. And essentially we're in a culture war about whether it is okay to transgender our children. And I'd like to say I don't think it is. Okay. I'm not ambiguous about that. I don't think God makes mistakes. But I also think that we're largely silent. No major news people pick this up. I mean, my daily column, I was able to write about it in my daily column on Epoch Times, but nobody even in the news department at Epoch Times picked it up. Even after me talking to them and them saying, yes, we're going to pick it up. I've been on Fox News a dozen times or more. I reached out to all the producers that call me when they want me to comment on something. And they were like, silence. A politico. Someone from Politico called me to get my quote or whatever about something that was happening with Maha and I was like, hey, have you heard? Not, oh, send me the information. But nobody in the mainstream has brought this up either side of the aisle. So it seems to me that pharmaceuticals still seem to run everything and you can't get past that. And the one last thing I want to say is that the veterinary, like pharmaceutical companies, just like in probably regular medicine, they put out veterinary books. So the Merck Veterinary book for 2025 still adverse event for estradiol implants as teat development. So I can't say that we can, we can't roll out the hormones, although the researchers in their minds have already ruled them out. So that's, that's a rundown of where we're at with this. I would like to say that not 100% of grass fed farmers are not using these hormones. And I'm in a group called Guns God and Beef. It's like a telegram group or a text group. And even in that group, people were like, hey Molly, could you stop talking about the hormonal implants in the ears? This is the only way I can get to market in the timeframe, blah, blah, blah, blah. So we have to ask the questions of our farmers and we have to trust the farmers. And so like my friend AJ Richards says, trust the fan. I mean, shake the hand that feeds you. We have to know who we're getting our food from, from. And I know that seems so clunky and so inconvenient, but honestly, what is the downstream effect of all that? Estradiol, trembalone acetate and xaretal. What is the downstream effect? And oh, one last thing is they believed that it couldn't be the ear implants. Their other proof was because dairy cattle get less of the ear implants because it's each stage of life you can give them another ear impl. But because dairy cattle go into confined feedlots immediately, they don't have as many stages of life like transitions where they could get the ear implant. But I saw another study where they openly talk about giving cattle because the first ear implant is a suckling. It literally says a suckling calf on its mother is the, is the stage. So this guy was saying when we're pulling the babies off their mother, they're not getting the ear implants. But then I saw another study about calf the economics of calf farms, which is a New business. Because these whole beef on dairy business where we're raising calves and the moms are not raising them, which also is creating, they're having formula and all the other things. There's plenty of other problems with this too, but more than 50% of those in the studies are seeing the calf on a bottle as the same as a calf. The veterinarian is viewing that as equal. They're not, not giving it to them because they're not on the mother. So this idea that, that they're getting less implants is also not backed up by these other studies, which I'm seeing where they're talking about the percentages of these calves getting the implants at zero to four months. [00:39:42] Speaker A: Yeah. Wow. Incredible. And I just want to remind the listeners, you know, one of the primary drivers of chronic disease is the. Well, it's two things. The body needs certain things to operate and function normally and it doesn't need other things. There's certain things that impede normal function and there's things that assist normal function, I. E. Nutrition and an excess of estrogen exposure, whether it be through beef, chicken, whatever food, even estrogen, like compounds that are in the plastic containers and whatnot. But estrogen in the tap water from contamination from pharmaceutical, oral contraceptive pills. I mean an estrogen dominance and imbalance. Excessive estrogen is a, a driver of metabolic dysfunction, it's a driver of obesity, it's a driver of cancer, inflammation. So it's these kind of basic things that seem basic. Eat real food. And I love what AJ Richards said, shake the hand that feeds you. So getting to know your local producer, supporting the local producer and getting high quality nutrition into your body, you're going to kill two birds with one stone. You're going to avoid this excess estrogen and other contaminants and you're going to get deep nutrition. [00:41:05] Speaker B: The other thing, like you were talking about the study that you saw, and I've seen the study as well, it has to do with the variety of fobs. So we can't just go to. Or weeds, really a variety of plants that the, the beef is eating. And so we can't just go to, oh, this is grass fed. And they got a bunch of hay or silage and they called it grass fed. We actually want a cow that is in a pasture system that's being moved to new pasture and is having us limited space so that they are forced to eat different, bitter, different herbs, different plants that they wouldn't normally eat because we call it like there's no selection. You, when you're doing holistic plan grazing, they're going to eat everything because you're putting them at a high stock density in a small area for a limited amount of hours, and then you move them. But then there's no selective grazing. Because selective grazing is if you let your kid go to the fridge and you just say, eat whatever you want, and then all they want to eat is yogurt and honey, and you're like, well, I feel like you got to eat something else. It's selective grazing. They're just eating one thing. One thing, one thing. The most palatable thing, when they can walk around and go anywhere. In the holistic planned grazing, there is no selective eating. So they're eating things that are less palatable but have nutrient density. And just like you're sometimes telling your kid, like, hey, I need you to eat some fish oil or can you eat some bitter greens? Because the bitters are good for you. Whatever the things you're trying to. It's the same for the cow. And so with that, we are replicating what used to happen a long time ago where they would stay all bunched together, not because they wanted to eat every last thing, but because of predator pressure. And so we're creating that again, and then we're moving them every day to a new spot so then there's no damage on the ground. And next year we could have even more different kinds of biodiversity growing out because they're stimulating the seed bank and stuff that hasn't been growing in this field for years is now all of a sudden growing. So year over year, you're getting healthier and healthier beef, and we don't use antibiotics, we don't use. I don't even use vaccines. And I did use vaccines, like the first year we moved here from California for the first time, I had a bunch of cows die from black leg. And I didn't have black leg in California. But I think that my cows were stressed. They came from one environment, went to another environment, and yeah, I lost a bunch of cows and I was like, oh, I don't want to lose all my calves. Calves. So we vaccinated the rest of the calves and then we never did that again. Because once the cows adapted and they're eating really healthy and they're moving every day. I haven't had sickness, and that does not mean I will let a cow suffer. We have a small dairy, and sometimes when it's very rainy and they're laying down and they're laying and their Udders are laying in the manure. We've gotten mastitis. And I will treat mastitis because it's life threatening. I'm not somebody who's like, oh, well, if the cow lives or dies, it's whatever. But I don't use vaccines or antibiotics or anything as a regular part of our protocol because my cows are really just so healthy. And there is rare cases where mastitis has gotten usually when it's very, very rainy and wet and they're laid down on each other's manure. But for the most part, we don't have health issues in our cows. And that has really. The lack of necessity for medication has been directly tied to how the land has got gotten healthier. And as the land has gotten healthier, the variety of food has improved. And as the variety of food has improved, they have, health has improved and we've been able to use less medications. And that is been extraordinary. And when I buy a new cow that I didn't own and we're bringing him from somewhere else, we do treat them with Ivermectin because I just don't want to introduce more parasites that might not. My cows are not having a terrain that's used to dealing with or whatever, but for the most part we don't use any medications. And it's been awesome to see as the cows are healing the land, the land is healing the cows and how God's design is perfect. And I always, what do I say the most high is? The most high tech is like we have all these high tech options that we're designing and they have so much waste and garbage and negative impacts. And God's design is just like the healthier the animals get, the healthier the ground gets. The healthier the ground gets, the healthier the animals get, the more carbon gets pulled out of the atmosphere. No waste, nothing. Like every bit of waste is used for microbiology, to make more sugars, to make more carbohydrates, to make more healthy. It's just like this beautiful circle. And God's design is so much more high tech than anything that we could ever design and to have appreciation for that and for us to as farmers, step in and say, it is my job to cope with God's abundance out of this ground and be the steward and tend to the garden as we're asked, as the first thing we're ever asked to do is such a privilege in this world and not easy and hard and there's been so much to overcome and. But it is literally the biggest Blessing. And every day, I'm not exaggerating, every day that the restaurant is open, someone tells me, as soon as I got here, I felt God's presence. As soon as I got here, God told me, this is your ministry, and you keep going. God told me to come pray with you for the abundance of this land. I mean, I've never seen anything like it. I was in LA for 15 years. I don't think anybody ever walked into my restaurant and asked me to pray with me. And everyone that hits this. Not everyone, but every day somebody that hits this land experiences a relationship with God a little bit deeper than they did 10 minutes before. And that, I believe, is when the money is hard, when the electricity bill is high, with all that stuff. That is God encouraging me, that is my reinforcement that you're on the path, you're being obedient, and you're not taking the easy way out, and you're being the steward of the land and seeing the cows, the grass, all of these things interconnect. And seeing the abundance start to flow recently has been really rewarding as well. [00:47:37] Speaker A: Yeah. So awesome. Molly just reminds me of that scripture. Narrow is a gate and narrow and difficult is the path. [00:47:46] Speaker B: My [00:47:46] Speaker A: friend [00:47:47] Speaker B: literally just tell me this. The other morning I called him, like, super bummed about something, and he said, molly, I don't know anybody who's better at long suffering in the narrow path than you. So you're on it. Keep going. So that's funny that you just said that. My friend John literally just said that to me. [00:48:05] Speaker A: Yeah, it's a good reminder. It is a difficult path, but a rewarding path. And the difficulty, I think, is in the unknown and the mystery of not being able to see for sure that tomorrow things are going to work out, but we're trusting God that they will. Even though we don't have the evidence necessarily in our intellect to. To assure ourselves that it's all going to work out. So it's an awesome balance of trusting, listening, following your heart as God leads you. [00:48:34] Speaker B: But it's also remembering that our identity is not in our success [00:48:39] Speaker A: in [00:48:40] Speaker B: this worldly world. Our identity is how obedient were we to what we knew? And I make this up. It's not like biblical, like 100%, this is true. But I believe once we know something, we are responsible for it. If you didn't know, if you did not know or understand the laws of the universe and God. But once something is put on your heart and you know it and you don't follow it, that's where I feel like we've gone astray. And so in the knowing that I'm being obedient has to be my identity, has to be my relationship with God has to be what fulfills me. Not like I was a millionaire restaurant owner and I'm so boss, babe, whatever. Like that can't be my identity. Because if that's my identity, the fear of failing will stop you from even trying. And so to take the next step and say, I'm doing this for his glory and for all of his food is perfect and divine and ready to heal our bodies. And if I can let people know this, show them this, have the experience of sitting on the land and eating a patty melt where the sour dough fermented, the yeast was collected from the juniper trees and the cow was grazed on that field right there. And the cabbage was grown here and fermented into kimchi. And you eat that patty melt, you're eating all the microbes and all the information from the land where you are is informing your body how to be healthy. And this was just normal 150 years ago. [00:50:22] Speaker A: And [00:50:23] Speaker B: we don't have that anymore. We rarely eat the food of the land that we're on. We rarely, rarely do. And so I do believe that there is something magical and special and also totally ordinary and human about eating the food of the land that you're on. Eating fermented foods that wild fermented in the place that you are. All of that informs our body how to operate and we don't do that. Our body's getting food from all around the world and who knows what it's informing us has to [00:50:52] Speaker A: do. Yeah. Yeah. So good. Well, talk a little bit about if someone wants to experience what you just described. Talk about the Sovereignty Ranch and how, what is it? What do you do there? How can people experience that? What should they expect when they show up there? And how can they show up there? Just talk, talk through that a little bit. [00:51:15] Speaker B: Yeah. So couple things. We are a, a 206 acre plus some leased acreage family farm in Central Texas in the hill country. We have 40 beds. So it's like a little bed and breakfast. And they're kind of. It's not like a hotel. It's like there's tiny houses, there's some manufactured homes, there's some shipping containers. There's different options for where you can stay on the ranch. And there's a restaurant. It's open Tuesday through Sunday. We have a big event stage, we have a conference room. So if you want to do a medical conference, a chiropractor conference, a dental conference, whatever. We have all that we have and everything. All the meat in the restaurant, we grow it ourselves. And then anything that is purchased outside, as far as vegetables, because we can't grow all the stuff here, but is all. We buy organic and local when we can. And so it's really. And there's no soda, there's no corn syrup, there's no msg. There's no weird preservatives. There's nothing I can't pronounce or imagine growing and know what it looks like. Because if you can't imagine it growing, then you probably shouldn't eat it, is what I always tell people. But anyway, so we're here and then we do big events and we do little events. We have a big event coming up in two weeks. I think there's still tickets for it called Exit and Build. This is really about exiting the system and how to learn how to create parallel systems. Homesteading. It's everything from homesteading to cryptocurrency to precious metals. Different ways that we can exit and build new systems. And then we have our big annual Confluence Conference that happens in April and the first weekend of May. We're doing Food is Medicine. You were there last year. It was amazing. This year, Joel Salatin is going to be there. Sally Fallon is going to be there. A bunch of other people. I think you're coming, but just for a short time, right? Just one afternoon or something. [00:53:17] Speaker A: Yes, I'm trying to make that happen. I've got. Or [00:53:19] Speaker B: maybe not. Maybe it was [00:53:20] Speaker A: the other [00:53:20] Speaker B: one. [00:53:21] Speaker A: We'll talk about that. I've got the two weekends before that. I'm out of town at conferences and I try to limit for family, but I love. [00:53:27] Speaker B: Okay. [00:53:27] Speaker A: I love being down there. So Jamie. And we might just bring the whole family. [00:53:31] Speaker B: Okay, well, no pressure, but we definitely love that One's going to be Food is Medicine. And we're going to be talking about all the ways. And we're going to have Pam Popper, who's like a vegan, like, totally believes the opposite of what Sally believes. And I think it'll be interesting. We're gonna do a panel, and instead of having them, like, debate or fight each other, we're gonna talk about all the things that we believe, all the things that bring us together, like back to what we were talking about before. So Whole Foods. They both believe in Whole Foods. They both. You know, I mean, so where they both believe in informed consent. No vaccines. Like all this stuff. So instead of seeing them as nemesis is like, this is the wellness forum and they teach whole food, vegan diet, and they've healed, have a hundred stories of healing people. And then Sally Fallon same. Instead of being like, how we don't get agree. Don't get to agree. We're going to have them talk about where their ideas overlap and we sure. Willie will talk about where they don't agree a little bit. But I think it's important that we start to look at each other in every area, even in our own backyards, of how we can agree. Where is our common ground? Instead of where do we not agree? Because it's so easy for human beings to go to the not agreeing part. [00:54:48] Speaker A: Yeah, that's beautiful. I'm 100% with you. We need to find ways to come together. [00:54:56] Speaker B: I went from vegan to not to that. But I know people that have healed themselves on just juice, like juice fasting. I know people that have healed themselves on only eating beef. I know people that have, have healed themselves on a raw food, vegan diet, serious illnesses in all of these categories. And I on water fasting, milk fasting. I want to tell you that when we cut out all the processed foods, the body can heal. Now, is there arguments like, okay, I also, you know, what are those oscillates? You're getting too much oscillates. You're getting too much this, you're getting too much, you're getting too much cholesterol. Sure, people can argue about those things, but ultimately, when we eat foods in their whole food form, the way God presented them to us, health returns to our body. And I think that ultimately we don't need to fight with each other about who has the exact correct diet. It's the dogma of our, of our industry, but it's the same dogma that's in Christianity, same dogma that's between religions, the same dogma of, of the red and blue. And I think that in each day, the more ways we can say, you know, how we're the same is better than, you know, how we're different. And [00:56:13] Speaker A: so [00:56:14] Speaker B: that's trying to be my practice moving into 2027 is how are we the same? [00:56:19] Speaker A: Yeah, that's so good, Molly. I mean, you embody the, the kingdom message versus empire that I always talk about with Jamie Winship. You know, unity in love, seeing your neighbor as someone that you can be, you can walk with, you can love on, you can encourage instead of judge and, and ridicule and try to bring conviction in Their heart. That's the job of the Holy Spirit, guys. That's not our job. Our job is just to be a witness. And the witness is our life. Our testimony is our life. Look at how, you know, we make decisions and treat others. And does it fall in the kingdom category versus empire category? It's that simple, really. So, Molly, thank you so much. I love what y' all are doing down there. The Sovereignty Ranch. How can people. What we didn't say the website or how they can follow you. Sovereignty [00:57:08] Speaker B: ranch.com. you can come follow our newsletter. We put it out every week. And then I'm talk to Molly on Instagram X everywhere, so you can follow me there. And to your point, be the ripple effect in the world. Like, we'll. We're never going to know our full impact, but we just have to be. Be that candle in the dark room, be that ripple effect. And Ben is an extraordinary example of this. People come into my restaurant all the time. I heard you on the Ben. Dr. Ben's podcast. And people are changing their lives. And my. A farmer that I buy corn from. Heard you at the Great Plains. Right? The Great Plains. What is it? The Plains Nutrition. I don't know what it was, but you did a farming plains thing. [00:57:59] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:58:00] Speaker B: And he [00:58:00] Speaker A: was [00:58:00] Speaker B: like, you have to hear this YouTube video. This guy's the genius. Blah, blah, blah. So I go, I find the video. It has like, seven views. I'm like, I'm sure this guy is a genius. And then. And it's like, all far away. Like, a video camera is seven miles from you. But it didn't matter because I was driving. So I just listened to it and I said, oh, my goodness. And you did, like, an hour and a half talk and then an hour and a half talk the next day. But I drove to Austin and drove back and listened to the whole thing, and I'm, like, all inspired. I'm sending it to my friends with diabetes. I'm sending it to everybody, and they're like, it only has eight views. I know, I know. I'm one of them. But I didn't know about your podcast or anything, because this guy had just told me about this one talk. And so I found it, and I was totally inspired and totally led to share your podcast and your information with other people. And then you. You came here, and it's just been kind of a circular ripple effect. But you are doing the work of reminding all of us the power that we have inside of ourselves to make the change. And I just want to thank you for sharing the message of you are the cure. Sharing the message of the power that we have to take responsibility. And I just. It is so amazing. I just wrote this article about how they're, you know, people are that. What's that? Lady Barbara o'. Neill. Everybody's so upset, and she lost her ability to practice or do nutritionist in Australia. And I thought ideas are not dangerous. The idea that we're not allowed to have an idea and then get. We have to give our authority to this idea is the problem. And so thank you for sharing ideas in the world and letting people. People take their authority of their health into their own hands and remembering that we're made perfect and we can get back into alignment with that perfection. So thank you for you in the world. I am honored to get to walk in this plane with you at the same time. [01:00:07] Speaker A: Well, likewise, Molly. Kudos to you. It takes a quite the humble woman to go from vegan millionaire, restaurateur, feeding the Hollywood stars to uprooting and moving to Bandera, Texas, and that difficult, narrow path. So you and Rylan and the whole crew, y' all are doing incredible. And for the audience, I just really encourage you to check out Sovereignty Ranch. Make the trip. It's not the Ritz Carlton. It's a family working ranch. It's the real deal. And. But go out there and connect with God, connect with the land, connect with other people. I mean, I think that's Rylan's true identity as connector. It seems like he's always connecting people. So support these guys. It's amazing. This is the answer. Go vote if you want to vote, but vote more with your time, your relationship and your money, and support people who are loving their neighbor, loving God, loving the creation, and producing amazing beef and. And food. So, Molly, thank you so much. We'll love to have you back sometime soon. [01:01:14] Speaker B: Okay? Thank you so much for having me. God bless you. [01:01:17] Speaker A: All right, everybody, you can find this on our website, veritas, wellnessmember.com and all the platforms out there. Share it far and wide and go support your local farmer. We'll see you next time. Bye. Bye.

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