Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Hey guys, I'm Dr. Ben Edwards. Welcome to another episode of youf're the Cure. Today I'm going to be answering some of your questions.
[00:00:06] What exactly do I believe and why do I believe that? And what's all this stuff we've been talking about lately have to do with your health? Anyways, we'll get into that in just a minute. Real quick, just a Reminder, next week, April 7, 5:30, Midland, Texas, the truth about your health, part two.
[00:00:23] I'm excited to be going back. The crew at Simply Midland is hosting me again. It'll be awesome. So check out the link below or go Simply Midland on Instagram. You get your tickets.
[00:00:34] Seeking whole health April 17th and 18th, Wooster, Ohio I believe actually that one sold out, guys. But still check out their website for next year. It's been three years in a row now. The conference has been awesome.
[00:00:46] April 24th and 25th, the homestead conference.com is the website. The Homestead Conference in Waco, Texas at Homestead Heritage. Joel Salatan will be there. John Kemp will be there. I can't wait to listen to those guys.
[00:00:58] And of course, I'll be speaking too. But all the homesteading stuff looks really, really cool. So check that out.
[00:01:05] Also, first annual conference, the American Regeneration Conference down in Bandera, Texas at Sovereignty Ranch. That's May 1st and 2nd. That'll be a great conference. To Acres, USA. Been around a long time. They always put on good conferences. And then they're partnering with American Regeneration. You can check out either one of their websites, acresusa.com americanregeneration.org sovereignty ranch.com to get your tickets. May 1st and 2nd. I'll be speaking there also.
[00:01:38] Okay. And then in the fall, need the Cure, April 14th 15th, Wives Traditions, October 16th, 18th. We'll talk about that more in the future. Let's jump right in, guys. To the to our talk today. Before I start talking about what I believe, why I believe it, and what in the world does it have to do with your health, I wanted to read an excerpt from a book. This book's really hard to find. Actually. I just looked on ebay. You can get it for $1,175. It can be yours.
[00:02:08] It's called Vaccination Condemned by All competent doctors. Book 1 by Elben E L B E N. That's short for Eleanor Bean, who was around during the Spanish flu.
[00:02:22] And that's a big part of that book is talking about the Spanish flu and what her personal experience was. Her dad was a doctor and she witnessed a lot of Stuff.
[00:02:31] And I'm going to read an excerpt from that book here in a second. There's another book by Eleanor McBean, a lot easier to find, but it's called the Poison Suppress Facts about Vaccination. Today's show is not about vaccination, but it is about a different perspective, a different testimony about the 1918 Spanish flu than what we, what I was taught, I think what most of us were taught. And it reminded me as I, and I think it'll remind you when I read this excerpt of what we just went through in 2020 and 21 and 22.
[00:03:02] And I mean even to this day, people in Congress saying this gene therapy injection saved millions of lives. And then you have the other side saying it actually killed millions of lives.
[00:03:14] Just polar opposite, literally 180 degree difference in the history telling.
[00:03:23] So who's telling the history? Who's writing the book? I've said this before. If Dr. Peter McCullough wrote a history book on the COVID 19 pandemic versus Dr. Anthony Fauci's version of the history book on COVID 19 pandemic, they're going to be 180 degree difference.
[00:03:40] But let me just read a little bit.
[00:03:43] So first of all, it's interesting to note that the Spanish flu so called has nothing to do with Spain and apparently nothing to do with the flu either. Interesting. But Spain was the first to report this kind of breakout of an illness because they had not censored their news yet because of the things leading up to and during World War I. Spain was neutral in the war and so their, their press wasn't censored and they were able to just tell the truth. And anyways, so this breaking news of some new epidemic flu, people dying came out of Spain first. But the actual first case reported when you trace it back was Fort Riley in Kansas. The first case, military vaccination experiments in Fort Riley, Kansas.
[00:04:41] Let me find my page real quick. Autopsies after the war proved that the 1918 flu was not a flu at all. It was caused by random dosages of an experimental bacterial meningitis vaccine which to this day mimics flu like symptoms. The massive multiple assaults with additional vaccines on the unprepared immune system of soldiers and civilians created a quote killing field.
[00:05:06] The World War I U.S. soldiers were given 14 to 25 untested experimental vaccines within days of each other, which triggered intensified cases of all the diseases at one time. The doctors called it a new disease and proceeded to suppress the immune system with additional drugs.
[00:05:24] This is a Direct quote from Eleanor McBean Seven men dropped dead in a doctor's office after being vaccinated. Letters were sent to their families that they had been killed in action.
[00:05:36] This is a multi paragraph excerpt I'm going to read from. Again the book is Vaccination Condemned by All competent doctors. Book one and I'm quoting from that book by Eleanor McBean. I, Eleanor McBean was on the spot observer the 1918 influenza epidemic. All the doctors and people who were living at the time of the 1918 Spanish influenza epidemics say it was the most terrible disease that the world has ever had. Strong men, hell and hardy one day and dead the next. The disease had the characteristics of the Black Death added to typhoid, diphtheria, pneumonia, smallpox and paralysis and all the diseases the people had been vaccinated with immediately following World War I. Practically the entire population has been injected or seeded with a dozen or more diseases or toxic serums.
[00:06:33] When all those doctors or doctor made diseases started breaking out all at once, it was tragic. The pandemic dragged on for two years, kept alive with the addition of more poison drugs administered by the doctors who tried to suppress the symptoms. As far as I could find out, the flu hit only the vaccinated. Those who had refused the shots escaped the flu. My family had refused all the vaccinations, so we remained well all the time. We knew from the health teachings of Graham, Trail and Tilden, those are other physicians at the time, that people cannot contaminate the body with poisons without causing disease.
[00:07:15] When the flu was at its peak, all the stores were closed as well as the schools and businesses, even the hospital as the doctors and nurses had been vaccinated too and were down with the flu.
[00:07:27] No one was on the streets. It was like a ghost town.
[00:07:31] We who didn't take any vaccines seemed to be the only family which didn't get the flu. So my parents went from house to house doing what they could to look after the sick as it was impossible to get a doctor then if it were possible for germs, bacteria, viruses or bacilli to cause disease, they had plenty of opportunity to attack my parents when they were spending many hours a day in the sick rooms. But they didn't get the flu. They didn't bring any germs home to attack us children and cause anything. None of our family had the flu, not even a sniffle. And it was in the winter with deep snow on the ground.
[00:08:09] It has been said that the 1918 flu epidemic killed 20 million people throughout the world. But actually the doctors killed them with their crude and deadly treatments and drugs. This is a harsh accusation, but it is nevertheless true, judging by the success of the drugless doctors in comparison with that of the medical doctors.
[00:08:34] While the medical men and the medical hospitals were losing 33% of their flu cases, the non medical hospitals such as Battle Creek, Kellogg and McFadden's Health Resortium were getting almost 100% healings with their water cure, baths, enemas, fasting and certain other simple healing methods followed by carefully worked out diets of natural foods.
[00:09:08] One health doctor didn't lose a single patient in eight years. They were very successful health.
[00:09:14] The very successful health treatment of one of those drugless doctors who didn't lose any patients will be given in the other part of this book.
[00:09:24] If the medical doctors had been as advanced as the drugless doctors, there would not have been those 20 million deaths from the medical flu treatment.
[00:09:35] There was seven times more disease among the vaccinated soldiers than among the unvaccinated civilians. And the diseases were those they had been vaccinated against. One soldier who had returned from overseas in 1912 told me that the army hospitals were filled with cases of infantile paralysis. And he wondered why grown men would have infantile disease.
[00:10:00] Now we know that paralysis is a common after effect of vaccine poisoning. Those at home didn't get the paralysis until after the worldwide vaccination campaign in 1918.
[00:10:12] Again, that was an excerpt from Vaccination condemned by Eleanor McBean. It's very difficult to find this book, but there is a website that has some of these excerpts.
[00:10:24] Sal Martingano Sal S A L Martin M A R T I N Gano g a n o.com where I was able to find some of these excerpts. But interesting perspective. 14 to 25 untested experimental vaccines given out starting at Fort Riley, Kansas where the apparently this first flu case came out.
[00:10:48] You know, Eleanor's dead now. I can't look in her eyes and discern and talk to her and ask her questions.
[00:10:55] I think everyone else from that time's dead too now, so who knows? Is she lying? Did she have some ulterior motive?
[00:11:04] You know, hard to say, but reading through the whole book and reading her testimony and her descriptions, kind of like a diary, in some cases I think she was telling the truth.
[00:11:15] So my point in this is there's just perspectives. There's different perspectives, different narratives, different opinions, you know, different biases, maybe different motivations and people that write books and write history and produce media and, you know, that Box on the wall that tells a vision.
[00:11:39] Tell a vision.
[00:11:40] With programming and channeling, we've got to be careful what our eyeballs see. What you behold, you become. Okay, so I want to read that just to remind us that some things may not be as they seem or what we've been taught. There's always a different point of view and a different perspective in who's writing the history books, even including who's writing our Bibles.
[00:12:06] I was reading recently, in Isaiah 53, verse 10, the Lord is willing to cleanse him of the injury.
[00:12:17] For those of you that are Familiar with Isaiah 53, Isaiah's writing a prophecy of Jesus and the murder of Jesus.
[00:12:31] Here's what all of our versions, pretty much something will go along like this. Isaiah 53, this is the English Standard Version, verse 10.
[00:12:41] Yet it was the will of the Lord to crush him.
[00:12:44] Some versions will say it pleased the Lord to crush him.
[00:12:49] That's really different than this other version. The Lord is willing to cleanse him of the injury.
[00:12:56] So this other version, that's totally different from the modern versions, from a book called the Septuagint.
[00:13:02] I'm not going to go on a huge historical debate on Septuagint, but needless, I'll just leave it at this. That's the Aramaic and Greek version of the original Hebrew text, the original Hebrew that Moses was speaking. And God gave Moses to write down those books of Moses in the Old Testament, that old language was lost to history.
[00:13:27] There's some modern Hebrew. That's not what Moses was writing and speaking in. That's. That was Paleo Hebrew, the ancient Hebrew that's lost a dead language.
[00:13:40] But when the Israelites were captured and moved to Babylon, the Babylonian rulers wanted a copy of the Hebrew text.
[00:13:55] And this Septuagint is based off that translation, basically.
[00:14:02] And whenever Jesus is quoted and most of the quotes in the New Testament, when Jesus is quoting scripture, like when he stands up and reads from the book of Isaiah, he's reading from the scrolls in the synagogue.
[00:14:14] And when the disciples are quoting Old Testament in the New Testament, if you go and compare, mostly they're quoting from Septuagint.
[00:14:27] So it appears to me that this version that I just read about, the Lord is willing to cleanse him of the injury is coming from the scrolls that Jesus read and that were revered by all the early church fathers. And the disciples quoted from it.
[00:14:44] And again, I'm not gonna. The show's not about that today, but it's about understanding that there are motives to deceive people to not tell the truth. And we just need to be open minded, I think and be willing to change our mind and change our thinking.
[00:15:03] Metanoia the word repent, which I grew up thinking that just means turn from my bad ways, quit lying, cheating, stealing, killing, sinning.
[00:15:13] But it's, it's not that it's a change in your thinking, so. But we'll get into all that in a minute.
[00:15:21] What do I believe and why do I believe it? And this could be probably a five hour talk and I've got it already, I'm 15 minutes in. So of course there's no way to put it all into the next 45 minutes. So I think the best way. Well, let's start with why are we talking about these kind of things? And I will just say on this journey of being introduced to the fact that pharmaceutical based symptom management produces the worst outcomes. I was seeing that in my own patients 15 years ago. And then when my mind and my heart were open, start with my mind. When my intellect was open with facts, scientific evidence based, peer reviewed, published data opened my intellect to the fact that the pharmaceutical based symptom treatment was getting the worst outcomes and spending the most money to do this and come in dead last place. And drugs were the third leading cause of death in America. I just saw a meme on someone showed me from Instagram 250,000 deaths from raw milk consumption. Oops, I read that wrong. It's actually pharmaceutical consumption and it's true. Pharmaceutical drugs taken appropriately, prescribed appropriately, following standard of care guidelines, not overdosing. It's just the cost of doing business. The third leading cause of death, pharmaceutical prescriptions. When you throw in errors, drug errors, medical errors, medical mistakes, we're getting closer to the leading cause of death. Modern medicine is. But once my mind was open to some of these facts and I started looking and, and it took. It was a journey. A journey. A journey, guys. It took me a year to believe this doctor who told me there's no such thing as diseases are all consequences. And he proved it to me after a year of debating him because I couldn't believe it.
[00:17:10] My arrogance and close mindedness and belief in the story I'd been told and. But finally it took my 10 sickest patients getting well under the guidance of the doctor and he didn't practice medicine on him. He taught them diet and lifestyle things. It was amazing. And they reverse their disease. It was incredible. The testimony of the saints and the blood of the lamb is what overcomes a dragon. And it's These testimonies, the anecdotal reports that modern medicine education says to ignore. We're not supposed to listen to an anecdotal one off story, but man, these 10 anecdotal patients of mine, that got, well, blew my mind, but I'm not going to go down that road. If you haven't heard that story, go back to some previous episodes. The point is, these guys got well and gals got well because the body fixed itself and all they did was start to give the body what it needed and avoid what it didn't need. It was incredible. Amazing. Diabetes, gone. Ulcerative. Colitis, gone. Chronic prostatitis, gone. Lupus, gone. Depression, gone.
[00:18:12] Asthma, gone. Add, ADHD, gone.
[00:18:15] Not by some other input other than just natural food. Sunshine, movement, get your stomach acid back. That's a huge one. We'll talk about that more in a minute. But it was just so incredible to sit back and just observe and watch the body do something that I could never do from the end of a prescription pad and pen and scalpel.
[00:18:39] The body, the doctor was within, the healing was within. It was amazing. Still amazing to this day when I see it.
[00:18:46] So of course that leads you to what does the body need? And in our natural mind, in our western world, left brain, we go to the physical, of course, food.
[00:18:55] We need food that doesn't have pesticides and hasn't been denatured and hasn't been stripped and robbed of all its nutrition. That is enriched white flour and high fructose corn syrup.
[00:19:05] And now all the literature is clear that the mitochondria gets hammered by processed food and toxins and it can't produce ATP energy and it produces too much exhaust. And all this exhaust, oxidative stress, inflammation damages our DNA. DNA and turns on our oncogenes.
[00:19:19] The genes are secondary, they're being turned on by the exhaust, all the oxidative stress, by the poor stewardship of the mitochondria. So it was beautiful. It all made sense as we started digging deeper into how does this body actually work.
[00:19:33] But there was always this missing piece.
[00:19:39] And a lot of people would get good, better temporarily or even kind of long term by just eating good and moving a little more, getting some sunshine and hydrate and quit drinking sugar.
[00:19:49] But then some wouldn't and some would regress after they got better. Then they get, they kind of get worse again even though they're still eating good.
[00:19:57] And then some would never get better. And it, the common theme in all of it was chronic stress.
[00:20:02] Chronic stress. I even went to A conference on the mitochondria where they taught us all this stuff, give this supplement and this supplement, these natural based, basically vitamins and minerals, but in supplement form because people weren't eating real food. But I went to that conference on the mitochondria. Here's how you steward it, here's how you get it better, here's how you get it stuck out, you know, get it unstuck. They're stuck in M1 Pro inflammatory. They need to flip to M2, which is growth factors and stem cells and you know, because we need the inflammation to, to burn up dead and bruised and damaged tissue, that germs and toxins and trauma damaged tissue. You need that inflammation. Go burn that out just like a brush fryer on a pasture. Then all sudden the new growth will come. Well, that's what your mitochondria does. It goes inflammation pro inflammatory M1 and then it goes anti inflammatory. M2 starts spitting out all the anti inflammatory compounds and growth factors and stem cell initiators, all this amazing stuff. New blood vessels are growing, M1, M2, M1, M2. But Americans are stuck in M1. That was the point of this conference I went to and they taught us all this stuff of how to get unstuck and it was all stuff in the natural.
[00:21:15] And I went back a few years later and they basically said, hey, everything we taught you last time was true and accurate. Those B vitamins are good.
[00:21:24] All these different supplements are good to try to get that mitochondria revved up, mitochondrial support.
[00:21:32] But what we have come to discover is the mitochondria that continues to stay stuck in M1 Pro inflammatories because of chronic stress.
[00:21:42] So then everyone starts studying stress management techniques, meditation, deep breathing exercises, box breathing, for example.
[00:21:51] You know, first morning sunlight, get good sleep, cold plunges, vagus nerve, vagal nerve, you know, manipulation and exercises and chiropractic care. And all those things are good and accurate.
[00:22:06] But what I observed and others have observed, you can go do your technique, do your deep breathing, do your meditation, do whatever, but then you got to get back to work and get back to life and your family and your, and your job and all the things.
[00:22:23] And you go right back into fight or flight.
[00:22:27] So you got to go deeper.
[00:22:30] The fight or flight. This, this is where this is so key.
[00:22:34] Fight or flight versus rest and digest. Chronic fight or flight is not compatible with chronic health.
[00:22:40] Chronic fight or flight is compatible with chronic disease, chronic sickness, chronic inflammation, chronic illness. Your mitochondria cannot function in a state of health under the influence of fight or flight for too long. Fight or flight is temporary. It's to get you out of the room when you need to run away from the tiger. It needs to go fight for a minute to kill the tiger and then it's done. So you're done in 30 seconds. A minute, two minutes, five minutes. And it's rare.
[00:23:05] So the mitochondria is supposed to be bathed in peace and serenity and calm.
[00:23:11] And when it's not, then it goes to M1Pro inflammatory. It gets stuck, it can't produce energy, it creates way too much oxidative stress and you can't fix that with sea salt and organic avocados and grass fed beef and all the things that I do eat and are good and I recommend you do go the clean 15 and dirty dozen on environmental working group and avoid those dirty dozen at all costs. Strawberries, non organic are awful toxic. They're always on that toxic dozen. I don't eat them, I avoid them. I purposely try not to toxify myself, but I don't make that my savior, my idol, my God. I don't stress out about it. If I have to, you know, consume something off the dirty dozen, not the toxic dozen, the dirty dozen list. But the point is it's not either or try to eat clean, move sunshine, all the things. But that's not necessarily going to keep you. In fact, I guarantee it won't keep you in a state of true peace and contentment that allows that mitochondria to function optimally.
[00:24:14] And when that mitochondria goes fight or flight and your body goes fight or flight, that vagus nerve rest and digest parasympathetic fight or flight sympathetic.
[00:24:26] That vagus nerve going sympathetic too often. Here's what it does in the physical. It shuts down your stomach acid. The ph, your ph is supposed to be a one, lots of stomach acid shut off and so your ph rises to a three or a four or five and it can't break the food down. That organic grass fed beef, you can't break it down because you don't have enough stomach acid. You can't absorb your B12 and your calcium and all the minerals and nutrients, all the gut bugs that are your secondary pharmacy that your gut bacteria create, Vitamin C and some B vitamins, vitamin K, serotonin, dopamine, the neurotransmitters, that's your pharmacy, your God given pharmacy. It's in your food, it's in your gut bacteria. Well your gut bacteria are decimated by Ph changes. And then when that protective layer in your gut, your gut flora gets decimated, then the damaged waves wall of the intestine is, comes into play. That's called leaky gut. So now you're absorbing all this undigested food. It's not digested because you don't have good stomach acid. The stomach acid triggers gallbladder and pancreas function. So now you're getting, not getting those enzymes either. And yeah, you can take a digestive enzyme, it's okay. I mean I recommend them sometimes, but it's not near as good as your original God given version.
[00:25:33] So now you're not breaking your fats and your carbs down because that's what the gallbladder, bile and the pancreatic enzymes do.
[00:25:41] So you're not getting your protein, fat and carbs fully broken down. Your mind, your microbiome is not there to break down these foods and you've got a leaky gut. And you're all this junk is coming across the leaky gut, hitting your immune system because 80% of your immune system is right there in your gut.
[00:25:57] All from fight or flight. Chronic stress.
[00:26:02] Fight or flight shuts down your immune system. Your body doesn't need to worry about killing a germ while it's trying to kill a tiger, so it shuts down white blood cell production.
[00:26:10] Your body in fight or flight shuts down. Thyroid and other hormones vital for chronic health.
[00:26:16] The master hormone thyroid totally blocked. T4 to T3 conversion inactive to active form, blocked by cortisol, your fight or flight hormone, your sex hormones, progesterone, totally robbing from progesterone to feed. Cortisol, adrenaline, your fight or flight hormone. Women who have abnormal cycles, heavy cycles, irregular cycles, can't get pregnant. Miscarriage oftentimes low. Progesterone is a cause of all that that I just said. And the progesterone is low because it's being stolen. The ingredients to make progesterone get shunted over to make cortisol, your fight or flight.
[00:26:51] So all kinds of hormonal problems, immune system problems and gut problems are related to chronic fight or flight.
[00:27:04] And organic food and box breathing and exercise and sunshine doesn't fix that.
[00:27:12] It can move the needle some and temporarily.
[00:27:15] But what we've come to understand is it's your goggles, it's your vision and how you see your heart beliefs. It is the beliefs in your heart that program your vagus nerve.
[00:27:29] That's it in a nutshell. This, that what I just said is why we're Doing all these shows this year that are a little bit different on deceptions in the world because your heart, beliefs, program your vagus nerve, how you see the world, how you see God, how you see your neighbor and how you see yourself.
[00:27:55] The things that influences your vision is what programs your heart. It's not the circumstances, it's honestly guys, not the war and all this Epstein and all the things. And believe me, I'm on my journey. I'm not saying I'm perfect. We all get triggered. And I'm not saying to ignore those either. I'm saying how do you interpret those?
[00:28:19] What do these events? And not even those big, huge, horrible, obviously demonic things, but just your day to day stuff. How do you, when you look at your doctor's report that he gives you, when you look at your bank account, when you look at whatever's going on in your kid's life or your spouse, the lens that you're looking through is how you're going to interpret conversations you have with your spouse and how you interpret the news that you consume, how you interpret everything, how you even interpret God's word beyond the obvious changes in translation, but even just God's word.
[00:28:57] And so as you travel down this journey of, of clearing up your lenses and your goggles, where I've landed is, that's why I've bring these guys on the show is identity, identity, identity.
[00:29:12] We've got to know who created us and not just know intellectually. I love apologetics. I did a whole series on why I believe from an intellectual proof apologetics and there's a time and place for that and that was years ago and it's on YouTube and our website. I think you can go watch that if that's where you're at. You need the intellectual proof. Go for it. It's awesome, but it's, it's deeper than knowing intellectually and proving to your brain and your intellect that God is real.
[00:29:47] It's deeper. It's a knowing, an intimate knowing of your creator, his identity and he's love.
[00:29:55] Anything in your heart that would tell you no, God isn't love, therefore can't be trusted then because you can't draw close to him and you can't trust him if you don't see him clearly.
[00:30:08] So that's the season we're in. Clearing up God's identity in our heart and clearing up our identity how God sees you uniquely and individually because he loves you uniquely and individually. And it's a good practice to fill in the blank with your name, God Loves Ben, God loves Jamie, God loves Bodie and Poppy and Tell and Bill, Kate and Cass and Ellie, my kids.
[00:30:39] There's a personal connection. And so I encourage you on your journey. That's huge for your lenses.
[00:30:47] God's identity and your identity rooted in love.
[00:30:51] It's absolutely essential.
[00:30:55] So encourage you to keep an open heart, an open mind, but more importantly an open heart to metanoia. Change your thinking. Go beyond. That's Jesus said it to see the kingdom. Enter the kingdom. Repent, repent. The kingdom is near. Repent, repent is metanoia. Change your thinking. So far thinking has been influenced by our upbringing, our culture, our religions, all the things we got to be willing guys. And I know that scares some people because we're comfortable in our traditions of man and our traditions traditions of our family and our traditions of our religion and our western upbringing and our intellectual stuff and just our culture. That's why Abraham was so amazing. God said come out of all that, come out of your household, come out of your father's house, come out of your your family, come out of your land, come out of all that.
[00:31:48] And he did. He believed an invisible word. That's what we're supposed to do. It's awesome.
[00:31:55] Okay, but that's why it's so important guys.
[00:31:58] Your goggles interpret your circumstances that affects vagus nerve and pushes it fight or flight versus rest and digest. You cannot get all your circumstances right to create peace. It's impossible. Your bank account will never be big enough. You can't have enough life insurance policies. You might think you do, but deep down inside you're still wondering what if something crashes big time? Will I have enough stored up?
[00:32:23] No, that's an orphan mindset. So that's good transition here. I didn't know how I was going to get here. My journey just grew up in a traditional, regular kind of conservative central Texan Baptist upbringing. Go to school, do all the sports, do all the academics, be a all a honor roll and just you know, go to college and get a good job and be a good person.
[00:32:49] And from a religious standpoint, turn or burn, get saved. Saved meaning don't burn in hell forever. You want to be in heaven, get to heaven. Get to heaven, get to heaven. Basically I mean in a nutshell and just cruising right along go through a lot of unbelief in my heart because of Darwin evolution that was preached to me in the five day a week church quote unquote. I was going to called modern science based in Darwin when in evolutionary biology.
[00:33:16] So 15, 1618 years of that training, undergrad, med school, all that. A lot of doubt and unbelief, but still kind of belief.
[00:33:27] So I don't know how old I was, maybe 30ish.
[00:33:32] We can't get pregnant with our second kid. First kiddo got pregnant right away. We used birth control back then, before we knew some of the harms of that synthetic hormone manipulation.
[00:33:43] But the first pregnancy, first month off birth control, got pregnant, second pregnancy, we couldn't. And it took a long, long, long time. And every month, this roller coaster of emotion. Negative pregnancy test, negative pregnancy test. 12 in a row. And that's the definition of infertility. 12, 12 months of infertile, of unprotected intercourse, no fertility, that's infertile. So we go to the fertility doctor, we do that stuff for 12 months. Nothing, nothing, zero. So 24 months of no baby.
[00:34:15] And I was reading in Matthew, seek ye first the kingdom. And I stopped right there. I didn't read the rest of the verse. It said, and then all these things will be given unto you. I stopped right there. It hit me in my heart. I'd read the verse before, but that day was a heart piercing penetration.
[00:34:30] And I think it was because I was in a state of vulnerability and emotional unrest to a degree that was very painful. And I was seeking and searching. I think my heart was actually seeking God. Not an intellectual answer, not a doctor answer, not a. In my own strength and power and not a religious answer.
[00:34:51] I was just earnestly seeking.
[00:34:55] That's I think is key. An earnest heart that's seeking and open. The Holy Spirit can write truth on your heart in that moment. Otherwise you're just using your intellect to write it on. You're using academic, theological to write it on your brain in religion.
[00:35:09] So that was a heart moment. Looking back, I can see that now. And that's why I stopped right there. And I went, got Jamie, my wife, I said, let's look at this right here. And we got down on our knees, we prayed, we repented. At that time we just thought that means say sorry and we're not going to do that anymore. And we don't want to do that anymore. Help us not do that anymore. We don't want to make an idol out of babies in a big family and or an idol out of being a small town country doctor. I threw that in there too. I started trying to think what, what am I putting above God? What do I think about strive for, work for I think I want to be. Or it gives me some sort of satisfaction or comfort or peace or enjoyment. Is there something above God? Basically idle.
[00:35:52] But it. The main thing obviously then was this big family and have another baby. And we'd made that baby an idol. And getting pregnant was just rocking our world every month. That negative pregnancy test for 24 months, this roller coaster is total idol worship.
[00:36:07] We weren't seeking the kingdom first. We were seeking a baby first, to put it in bluntly, succinctly. And so Jamie and I got convicted in our heart about that. We're seeking this baby, and that's wrong.
[00:36:19] Babies aren't bad. Big families, not necessarily bad. But we had made it a heart posture where that we had to have that to have happiness and peace. And it was above seeking the kingdom first.
[00:36:29] So we asked for forgiveness for that, and we don't want to do that anymore. And help us with that. Our very next in the same breath prayer was show us what the kingdom is, because I don't know what that even is. No one's taught me that. No one's told me that. I know it says that, but what is that?
[00:36:43] Because we're supposed to seek it, I don't know what it is.
[00:36:46] And then my next prayer was, I believe helped me with my unbelief. That was it. That was a turning point. And from that point on, at first, God opened my eyes intellectually through apologetics. The Bible's true and it's amazing and God's true and evolution is not true. And it scientifically got proven to me. So then it was game on. So it was a few years later.
[00:37:08] And by the way, we got pregnant right away, the next month. And then we had our third baby, and then we were pregnant with our fourth.
[00:37:16] And a lady came to me and asked me to go on a mission trip to Africa, medical mission trip, to see some orphans. Offense, it had never been seen by a doctor in a really poor part of this really poor country. And I'd been asked before to go on mission trips and never the opportunity, just it wasn't the right time. And this time I really felt like I was supposed to go. And I told Jamie, I, you know, I think. And maybe we should pray about you going too. She was pregnant, but she really felt strongly too that God's. Both of y' all go.
[00:37:44] And so she was about seven months pregnant, but so we're getting prepared to go.
[00:37:49] And my sister Emily, who's one of our wellness navigators, if you'll remembers, you know, that doctor physical therapy, she's awesome. If y' all have some physical therapy, Needs a little side note you can get on your wellness veritas wellnessmember.com As a member you can see her virtually and get some good movement too. We're doing 30 days of real movement. Sorry, little plug there. Just excited about our wellness program because people get set free. We're in all 50 states now, I think in three or four countries. It's a virtual platform and people are getting freedom. They don't need the doctor. You're the cure. Anyways, Emily, way back then, so this was 15 years ago.
[00:38:24] She sends me an email. Hey, check out this book on Radical by David Platt.
[00:38:33] And I thought, oh, that's interesting.
[00:38:35] And it was an interesting cover. It was a bright orange cover, is upside down house and just the word radical kind of big and bold and just kind of got your attention. But I was getting ready to go to Africa so you know, I didn't have time for that. So I just deleted that email. Kind of made a mental note maybe. Well then like the next day or two later I get another email from Christian audiobooks.com they just send out their advertising marketing emails and that email that day, like a day later was the the special of the month.
[00:39:05] Radical by David Platt. I thought, oh, what a coincidence. That's weird. Delete.
[00:39:11] Jamie and I go on the mission trip. We're in Malawi. We spend 10 days at this orphanage helping these kiddos out with the team. Had a great team. It was a great experience. Jamie and our oldest son Cade went with us. It was awesome. And little side note, Jamie was having a little heartburn and swelling in her legs and just uncomfortable. Not sleeping good over here because she was a good seven months pregnant, but over there sleeping in a tent on the ground. The moment we got on the plane, even her edema went away. Her lower extremity edema swelling in her legs went away. She had no heartburn and she slept like a baby the whole time we were in Africa. That was kind of interesting. But after 10 days at the orphanage they, the group we were with sent us on a rest and relaxation trip to unwind. At the end of the mission trip we got to go on a safari in the next country over called Zambia. And but it was like a five hour bumpy dirt road bus ride to get to the safari. So Jamie stayed behind in the, in the tent. She, with her pregnancy didn't want to be on a bumpy car ride like that.
[00:40:11] So Kate and I were going with the group and we're driving and we get to the border of Zambia and Malawi and it was just a dirt road and a little chain link fence with a gate. And it was in the middle of nowhere one, even a town.
[00:40:25] And the fence ended like after 20 yards and then it was just the bush.
[00:40:30] But you had to get off the bus, walk through the gate, show them the passport, the guy with the machine gun there, and he looks at your path and then you go across and there's another bus on the other side of the and on the other side of the border.
[00:40:43] And so I got on the new bus and it was empty. The driver wasn't even in it yet. And I was the first one on. I'm walking back to the back and I'm halfway down the end of that bus and out of the corner of my eye, something catches my eye in the seat and it's that book Radical by David Platt.
[00:41:00] My wife says that's kind of how sometimes God has to do with me. Just boom, right upside the head, like, duh, maybe I should have taken the first whisper of a hint of his voice. But anyways, that book was right there. I promise you guys, there was nobody on the bus. I, I looked, I got down on my knees actually and looked under the bus, under the seats on the bus to see is someone hiding under here. I was looking for any other missionary, white person anywhere that could have been, had this English book.
[00:41:28] It was.
[00:41:29] But anyway, so I grabbed the book and thought, well, maybe I'm supposed to read this.
[00:41:33] And I got to speed up here because we're at 40 minutes already. But real quick, just say that book basically, and it's been years, but if I recall right, David Platt was a preacher of a megachurch and he was kind of questioning what are we doing here in the Western church, these millions of gazillions of dollars, these huge churches, huge theaters, all the lights and smoke and the drums and the big parking lots and all the big automobiles with just the money part of it. We're putting our money to some things that maybe are we supposed to be doing that. But kind of questioning just the way some of the church was operating in the west.
[00:42:09] That combined with what the Malawian people, when we went to what they call church, completely different experience than what I'd experienced growing up in the Western church. Obviously an African church out in place, the first middle of nowhere in under a tree was amazing and radically different.
[00:42:30] That experience, Reading David Platt's book, coming back to a western church and sitting in it one Sunday, shortly thereafter, my wife and I looked at each other and said, there's Got to be more.
[00:42:42] So that's question number two, sir. Or I think thought number two. So thought number one was I was in an emotional state of crying out to God, so my heart was open to receive truth written on my heart. Like seek the kingdom first there's a kingdom thing more than church, then you need to seek it. So. But an open heart ready to receive truth written on your heart.
[00:43:06] That was one. Number two was this thought of, there's got to be something more. If you have that kind of thinking, this discontentment, there's got to be more, go with it. There is more.
[00:43:19] I still go with that today. There's always more. There's more mystery to be discovered. And it talks about that in the Bible. God can. Can hide some things, but it's. It's the honor of the king to discover these mysteries. And we're. We're the kings, guys. Jesus is the king, King of kings, Lord of lords. He's the high priest.
[00:43:39] But anyways, there's these mysteries of God, and we're on this discovery. It's awesome.
[00:43:44] So if you have that thought of, there's gotta be something more, go with it. There is. Ask God to show you and reveal it to you. Ask him to show. And I like going with Jamie Winship style. What do you believe in your heart about God that's not true. What do you believe about yourself that's not true. Camp out on the identity, but going on our journey. So, boom, there's got to be something more. We start asking, and one of the first things that comes, we get introduced to a friend of mine through a homeschool group about the kingdom.
[00:44:13] This guy's talking about kingdom, kingdom. And I didn't even understand that my. Jamie and I were just talking about this the other night when we went to dinner with Chadwall.
[00:44:21] Chad, this is a compliment, actually, but that first night at dinner with Jolene and Chad, I had no idea what they were even. I mean, literally 90% of the words coming out of their mouth is all about the kingdom. I didn't even know what they were saying. It was so a different language, almost like a different culture, a different.
[00:44:39] Like, I had no box to put in what they were saying. Now, I know it was some religious goggles that I'd had on and traditions of man. And it took a while to. I mean, there was enough there kind of like on the medical. And Dr. Roby Mitchell, Dr. Fitt told me, there's no such thing as disease. They're all consequence. And he would say all this Stuff and it sounded crazy, but there's enough there that was truth and Chad was saying enough stuff. Man. There's something there. I know there's something more. It ain't Jamie and I would say we know what it's not what we've been growing up with for the last 30 plus years, but we don't know what it is.
[00:45:12] And something of what Chad's saying is something about something. I think there's something there.
[00:45:18] And very quickly in our seeking the kingdom, first you run into this word church versus the Greek word ecclesia.
[00:45:26] Do a study on that. And I mean, I camped out on that for a year or more. More. And Chip Brogdon has a lot of great stuff on that and so does Abraham John. And I've interviewed both of them, I think, on this topic. So go back and listen to Chip Brogdon's very first interview I did with him because the second interview was about the five covenants that was more recent. But ecclesia, the called out the set apart.
[00:45:48] And just what did that word in Jesus's time mean when he said that? When the disciples use that word, when they wrote that word in the Gospels, what the context of that, what were they meaning?
[00:45:59] And just that word context is important. And this was from Abraham John. We've got to keep historical context in mind, cultural context in mind, social context in mind, geographical context, chronological context and audience context.
[00:46:17] The Bible was written for us, but not to us.
[00:46:21] So there's a lot of contextual things and especially in a Western mindset that we've all been brought up in versus an Eastern mindset. The, the you can read something be totally different, but just that word ecclesia, I can't get into it now because I'm running out of time, but I encourage you to dive into that. And again, I had to chew on this stuff and seek the kingdom first and chew on ecclesia. And what that called out meant congregation of called out set apart separated ones. Man, that was a year or two of chewing and figuring that out. And then it. The next one was sonship versus orphan when I got clued in and we interviewed Leif Hetland and also Robin Perry Braun. Go back and listen to those two and both their books on orphan and sonship, amazing. But that was a year or two of camping out and let my heart be truth be written on my heart by Holy Spirit, because I was operating as an orphan. An orphan doesn't know his daddy, doesn't know his father. That's why identity is so important. An orphan doesn't have an identity. He's orphaned, so. So he's got to do it all himself. He's got to provide for himself, protect himself, scrounge and fight and claw for everything. And his identity is wrapped up in performance, in what he does. That's where he gets his identity, not from his father. But we operate that way. As an orphan, we don't know that we've been adopted as sons. So that is huge. Guys, sonship, the spirit of sonship it talks about. I've given you a spirit of sonship which goes back to the original intent of God in the garden. He wanted a son. He wanted a family to rule the Earth, take dominion and rule over the birds in the air, the fish in the sea and the beasts of the field.
[00:47:51] Land, air, water, law. We're actually going to talk about that Next Week with Dr. Brian Spillman. Law, land, air and water. Dominion. We're supposed to have dominion over that, not over another human being.
[00:48:01] And a constitutional republic where people could actually be sovereign in their own house and rule righteously, knowing God will provide for them and they love their neighbor and they love God. That produces a type of government in the earth, a type of relationship with your fellow man that we don't have in the constitutional republic. We don't really have either.
[00:48:22] And there is no government of man that's going to work. I don't care how good you sugarcoat it. In the spirit of patriotism, we got to be careful about the spirit of religion, the spirit of patriotism intermingling. We'll talk about that more Next Week with Dr. Brian Spillman. We got to be real careful. And I'm going to step on some toes next week.
[00:48:37] But I'm not meaning to guides the heart is.
[00:48:41] There's only one way. The way. There's the way. The way Jesus saw his goggles that he had on, how he saw that woman in the act of adultery, how he saw the thief on the cross, how he saw the Pharisees, how he saw everybody. What were Jesus goggles he was looking through to interpret the world, interpret his neighbor and interpret God.
[00:49:02] That's the way. So when we talk about some of these more controversial things like our government's completely corrupt and owned by the international bankers that we're going to talk about next week, that's not to get into some fight and conspiracy theory thing. It's simply to say, don't put your hope, trust and faith in that system, because it's not the kingdom. Don't put your hope Trust and faith in any system of the world. In all the world systems, government, finance, healthcare, education, agriculture. These systems are of the world. They've been corrupted by the orphan spirit and other spirits. But an orphan spirit, I'm not going to go into any kind of business partnership or deep relationship with an orphan because an orphan is going to turn on you. Because they're self centered even if they appear not to be on the surface, fear will drive them to self preservation, self promotion. And then they start doing stuff with money that's not right. That's where all this money laundering stuff comes in. Or they start doing other stuff that's corrupt and not good. It's all rooted in. They don't know who they are and they're fearful of lack of provision. They're fearful lack of protection. I mean this whole depopulation of the world, these guys, I mean there can be some deeper satanic, just blood sacrifice stuff, but it's also they're truly scared for provision. There's not enough provision to go around so we got to depopulate.
[00:50:21] But that orphan spirit is a huge deal in wrestling that internally because fear of lack of provision, lack of protection, sickness, death, dying and identity.
[00:50:35] If your identity is wrapped up in performance or anything else, false identity.
[00:50:40] Go, go read Beat the Devil with his own stick. Ray Sturtevant gonna have him back on the show because he just wrote a new book that's all about false identity. Jamie Winship. False identity. Identity, identity, identity. When you nail your identity seated in Christ in heavenly places. Go Listen. Chris Blackaby's first episode, not the five Falls of Genesis, but the very first one, the Three Realms. Awesome.
[00:51:02] Listen, Chad Gonzalez. Healing isn't something you seek. Healing naturally comes. You have a vibrational frequency of the kingdom that repels disease. We're gonna have. In two weeks we're going to talk to Nerissa Jones.
[00:51:17] Don't have her book readily available. But in two weeks you'll hear all about her book. Never be sick again. But it's not about seeking healing, divine healing, although we talked about it's identity, identity, identity. When you don't know who you are, things will happen. You'll make decisions and you'll vibrate at a resonant frequency. That's not good. Okay, moving on. We're going fast. Ecclesia Sonship vs Orphan. Two massive pieces of this kingdom puzzle God's original intent. That was another piece that I kept asking what is God's original intent? Because I was brought up with the thought of we need to get to heaven. Get to heaven. Get to heaven. And it's totally opposite guides. We are not getting raptured out of here. And God just come judged the earth and Jesus coming and to destroy things new. That's why I went into Daniel 770 weeks of Daniel. The great tribulations already happened. But you gotta go read that for yourself. We've been reading Left behind series and watching movies. We've been listening to all these commentators.
[00:52:17] Go read it yourself. Because when you read in Daniel. And that's why I brought David Wilcoxon on. This is one of the most amazing prophecies in the whole Bible proving the Messiah, Jesus Christ.
[00:52:29] This proclamation goes out in 457 B.C.
[00:52:35] it's amazing. The angel the Lord comes to Daniel and says boom, there's going to be 70 weeks of years.
[00:52:42] That's 490 years, guys.
[00:52:46] When to the Messiah coming, starting his ministry and coming in and finishing this thing.
[00:52:54] Israel's sins got to be made full 490 years. And Daniel says okay, when do I start my stopwatch? When do we start on the calendar? When is it? And he says that the prophecy is start it when you hear the command to go rebuild Jerusalem. Well we know when that was, guys.
[00:53:13] The Babylonian king Artaxerxes 1, he issued that decree to Ezra in 457 BC Start the clock, boom.
[00:53:21] 470 weeks of years.
[00:53:24] But Jesus is coming on at the beginning of that 70th week and halfway through those, that last week when The Messiah starts seven years, that's, that's the last week. That's the 70th week. Seven years. Halfway through that week he's cut off and the abomination desolation and the sacrifices cease and that whole thing that people call the great Tribulation. Seven years in the future and there's going to be three and a half years and this, this abomination desolation and all this future stuff, all that happened already.
[00:54:02] Daniel was really clear.
[00:54:04] If God wanted it to be 69 weeks and then a huge pause, he would have told us that. So that's an interpretation that's only been around the last 150 years and came in mainly through Scofield. And that's a whole nother thing.
[00:54:16] But I'm not going to get into that again. If you didn't understand what Wilcoxon was saying, go listen to that interview again. And that was just a very surface intro. Go listen to his multi part series. But that is absolutely essential, guys. If the 70th week of Daniel already happened in 31 A.D. when Jesus started his ministry and three and a half years, halfway through the week, he gets cut off.
[00:54:38] And then the next three and a half years goes to Stephen's martyrdom. And that's it. The 70th week is done.
[00:54:44] So done.
[00:54:46] And when Jesus before he got killed, when he said, guys, this whole temple is coming down. Not one stone will be left on another. The temple was huge and amazing, incredible piece of architecture. And he said it's going to be totally devastated. And not even a stone left on another. There's no ruins. I mean there's ruins now where there's still at least one or two stones connected. And he said not even one will be connected. And all, everything he said in Matthew 24, I think it's Mark 13 and it's also in Luke, it's the same story.
[00:55:14] It's called the Olivet Discourse. But he's talking about the Great Tribulation, guys, like has never been seen on the earth or never will be. That's the Great Tribulation.
[00:55:24] And it even says Great Tribulation.
[00:55:26] And the disciples say, okay, tell us when, when's it going to happen? Within your lifetime. In this generation, all three record the same thing. Matthew, Mark and Luke say the same thing. In this generation it's coming and we weren't taught. I wasn't taught. Most people I talked to. Do you know about the war in 67-70 AD? Do you know about Jerusalem being surrounded by horses? Do you know about the most horrible atrocities?
[00:55:56] Cannibal eating each other because they're starved off because of the blockade killing, this massive killing field, Massive killing field.
[00:56:05] I mean I heard someone the other day is 80 something year old lady, never got married, never got pregnant because she read about this Great Tribulation can be so bad, it would be better that you not be pregnant so that you can try to escape to the hills.
[00:56:20] And when she understood that, whoa, that was in 70 AD, that's when Jerusalem got destroyed and all those million, a million Jews or however got killed. Like it's done.
[00:56:32] That's a huge deal, guys. So this isn't some just theological debate.
[00:56:37] It changes how people perceive the world and how they look at their neighbor and look at God and interact and make decisions and what robs their peace.
[00:56:46] I didn't mean to go off on that tangent, but okay, gotta focus here.
[00:56:52] Seek the kingdom first. Have an open heart and ask God to show you what you're not seeing clearly. For me it was Ecclesia was huge, Orphan spirit was huge. God's original intent was Huge.
[00:57:06] The lamb was slain from the foundation of the earth. That was a huge verse for me.
[00:57:10] It doesn't make sense to just get it to heaven. Get to heaven, get to heaven. Turn or burn, we got to get saved. Meaning just say a prayer to go to heaven when you die. That doesn't make sense when things don't make sense. That's. That's how God wired us for things make sense.
[00:57:25] And there are mysteries, but God will reveal them to your heart. But if something's just not sitting well, ask him and he will show. So here's what didn't make sense to me. Why is the lamb slain from, from the foundation of the world before God even makes this world as we know it now he's going to slay the lamb, slay Jesus, so he knows we're going to separate from him. The word sin, hematria, I think is the Greek, but don't quote me on that, but quote me on this. It means separation. It doesn't mean you're doing really bad things and God hates you. There's separation from God and it's really a lost identity.
[00:58:02] And Jesus came to restore the identity.
[00:58:05] So yeah, bad things, what we would call sin. All these, you know, robbing, thief, don't steal, kill, all these things.
[00:58:13] Adultery, all this stuff, those are the fruit of a heart belief. We got to go the heart. And it says it clearly in the New Testament. I'm not judging that the, I'm judging the heart.
[00:58:24] Jesus is looking at our heart.
[00:58:26] We just try to make all our actions and our works good. But the heart motive is wrong and not lined up with, in, in righteous alignment with God's heart then.
[00:58:36] And it's, it's going to show. But anyways, why would he slay the lamb if he knew we were going to separate from him and need that lamb slain if the goal is just to get to heaven. So that doesn't make sense. Just put us right straight into heaven if that's the ultimate goal. God wants to be with us in heaven. Just put us into heaven. No, there was a deeper. There's a more of a meaningful thing. And that's what we were talking about with, with both Chris Blackaby, the five falls of Genesis, Abraham, John, about, you know, considering the possibility that God wants the physical realm ruled by a representative of his. And Satan was the original representative. Then the gods, little G.
[00:59:13] Gods, you know, when, when the dispersion happened according to the number of gods.
[00:59:18] Go listen to Chris Blackaby Fivefold Genesis. He flushes that out more. But Basically the, the assignment was to these. The rest of the divine council, spiritual beings were assigned to the earth, different regions of the earth, potentially. Go read that out. I know that can be. That's a new concept for a lot of people. But the point being, does God want the physical realm ruled by a representative of His, a member of the divine council, his family. And I think when you can step back and ask God to show you the full context and the full picture and so many aha moments start to happen and things start falling into place for us. Us.
[00:59:55] Yes, he does. For some reason, yes, he's sovereign, meaning he's in charge. But in that sovereignty, in charge, he elected to have a divine council and a member of that divine council ruling the physical realm. Now could he wipe all that out and just come himself and rule it himself and just throw Satan in the lake of fire and lock it up and done?
[01:00:14] Yeah, he can do that anytime he wants. He's chosen not to do that. And there's a reason.
[01:00:19] That's what we. You can seek and be and discover that it's awesome.
[01:00:25] So if God's sovereignty being in charge, this is his way and his plan and his desires to have a ruling council and, or a family, a son. Come, let us make them in our image. Holy Father, Son, Holy Spirit.
[01:00:38] And he puts so Satan's out, done. Cast down. The Son comes, but the Son separates from the Father. Adam in the garden chose separation, but he chose it because of a cross question. Deception comes in.
[01:00:52] Satan deceived Adam and Eve through a question mark on God's character in nature and that opened them up to a question mark on who they were. That's the two questions I recommended you go do that Jamie Winship style.
[01:01:04] Satan came to Eve and basically questioned to the point that made Eve get a question mark in her heart that basically God's holding out on me, can't be trusted. There's more to this.
[01:01:15] God knows if you ate this, you'd be like him. It's this question mark on God's identity that he comes at us with. So that question mark, it separated Adam and Eve who should be taking dominion and ruling over the earth righteously as it is in heaven was happening on the earth. Righteous rule. Here's an example. Rule for the benefit of those under your authority. An orphan's going to rule for his own benefit. An orphan is going to be scared and start doing things for self preservation and self protection because he's an orphan, not a son he can't trust. His father owns it all and loves him and will provide him all his needs and meet all. Everything will be taken care of.
[01:01:55] Can't trust that. So now Adam and Eve are making decisions out of an orphan mindset. So the. So heaven's no longer in the earth. The earth's not being ruled by a culture of the kingdom.
[01:02:05] A righteous ruler makes decisions based off the benefit of those under his authority. To the point he would lay down his own life for those.
[01:02:14] That's the kingdom. That's the example. That's God who loves us and was in his son reconciling himself.
[01:02:24] That goes to that verse in Isaiah.
[01:02:28] That's. It's. I can't go down that path right now. We gotta get Damon Thompson on here. If y' all haven't heard Damon Thompson go listen him preaching out of Alabama. He does have tattoos. He wears a ball cap and a T shirt. And I think he had a dip in his mouth in one of these sermons. So if that offends you, a dead man can't be offended.
[01:02:46] Damon Thompson's got some kingdom truth. I highly recommend you go listen back to God's original intent. He wanted a son. The son separated.
[01:02:57] Free will, choice. That's a hot topic. I'm not going to. Time to get into it. I believe you can't have the virtue love if there's no choice. Because robots don't have choice and they can't love inflammatory for some people.
[01:03:11] We'll flush it out. Maybe let the Holy Spirit flesh it out. That'd be better. Not me. This won't be me convincing you. I'm not trying to convince you of anything. I'm just giving you some overarching things to consider. I'm presenting to you, submitting to you to seek it out. And this is. I'm just telling you the journey I've been on. Seeking, seeking, seeking. And I'm still on my journey. I'm a disciple, I'm a learner. I'm learning. There's more things I'm learning. There's things I've got wrong before and I'll repent and change my mind and go deeper and go closer to the way. And I gotta wrap this thing up. But guys, the point. Here's what I think, here's what I believe.
[01:03:47] I believe God wanted this physical realm to be ruled as it is in heaven. He wanted to bring his culture, the heavenly realm, his kingdom, into the physical realm.
[01:03:57] Why he wanted to do that, I don't know.
[01:04:00] But someday we will know. But I'm really convinced of this he wants heavenly culture in the physical realm, in the earth.
[01:04:11] And he doesn't want to do it dictatorially as an oppressor. A dictator oppresses and forces you and you have no input, no decision, no free will. And he's not that.
[01:04:24] And he wants to do it in community, the community of the tribe of the Trinity, Father, Son, Holy Spirit, in the community of the divine council, little g gods, including Satan, who fell, including his kids, his sons. Adam was the son of God and we are adopted in as sons. The last Adam came so we could be so the first son was never meant to die. He was going to rule the land, air and water, righteously making decisions that benefited Eve, benefited the kids, benefited the grandkids, benefited the animals, benefited the butterflies, benefited the microbes in the soil, benefited all of creation. And it would flourish. And he was to be fruitful and multiply and expand this throughout the entire physical realm. And it would be incredible. It'd be heaven on earth.
[01:05:14] In Garden of Eden was heaven on earth. So we know God's will.
[01:05:18] Don't say you don't know God's will. If you are saying that, check yourself in love. I'm saying this. Go look at the Garden of Eden. That's God's will. Everything's perfect. The lamb and the lion laying down together.
[01:05:30] You can look at God's will when you look in the life of Jesus. Jesus came to reveal the father. He came to bring that culture, the kingdom, that decision making, that lens back into the earth.
[01:05:42] So I believe God wants the physical realm to be ruled as it is in heaven, it be on earth. And that's how Jesus told us to pray. The disciples said, how do we pray? Jesus said, pray like this.
[01:05:54] Father in heaven, Abba, Father, Daddy in heaven, let thy will be done as it is on in heaven, let it be done on earth.
[01:06:02] So that brings a question. Why would he tell us to pray disciples and us to pray like that if it's automatically going to happen?
[01:06:10] If Jesus just coming back and wiping everything out.
[01:06:14] Real quick tangent and I know I got to wrap this up. May I just need to do a part two guys, last days people are saying, are we in the last days? The last days of what?
[01:06:24] Go read, go read. And I'm going to just tell you some of these verses to go read. And go, go read this yourself. You've got to make These discoveries yourself first. Corinthians 10, 11. The ends of the world have come. That's plural. Why is there a plural on ends 1st Corinthians 10, 11, Acts 2, 16, 17.
[01:06:45] It's talking about the ends, the, the end of the world. But that word world is actually eon, which means age. It's not this world's being destroyed, this earth is being renewed. And through the sons it's being renewed. That's another topic.
[01:06:59] But in Acts 2:16, it's talking about the end of the age, meaning the eon, the epoch of time, this age, which was the Jewish age, the Levitical law, the Levitical priesthood, that's what was coming. That was the end. There's no more temple sacrifice, the law's done. Jesus fulfilled the everlasting covenant. That's the age that ended. And it says, spoken of by the prophet Joel, in these last days, your young men will dream dreams and, or prophesy old mental dream dreams. Go read it.
[01:07:31] But it's saying, and this time is now the last days. That people quote from Joel saying it's going to be the future, last days into the world world.
[01:07:41] He's saying, no, that's now meaning in the time of the disciples, before the war of 67 to 70 AD, these are the ends of the days that the Jesus came to fulfill that covenant. That's why listening to the five covenant episode is so important in knowing which covenant you're in. When you're reading the Bible.
[01:08:00] First Peter 1, 20, manifest in these last times, these current last times, now these Last days, now 1st Peter 1, 21st, 1st Peter 4, 7, the end of all things is at hand. Now he's talking about the rabbinical, Jewish, the old law, that old covenant. Hebrews 1:1 spake through the prophets, but in these last days he speaks through his son. So that's a big deal. The King James, it uses the word world in Matthew.
[01:08:28] Let me see real quick, guys.
[01:08:30] It's Matthew 20 oh, Matthew 13, Matthew 24, Matthew 28. The word world, King James, it's a wrong, it shouldn't be world. And I wonder if they did that, you know, to try to control us. The king still wanted to control the subjects, even King James. I love King James Bible, but I read lots of different Bibles, Geneva Bibles, one of my favorites. But that word in particular in King James world is actually eon. That's the age into the age. So when you read the end of the world's coming, and you think it's all burning up, going away and the new world's coming, no, that word is age.
[01:09:08] And that changes our mindset to that. We got to fly away out of here in a rapture which, that's another one. Go read that. There's I think seven times in scripture where taken up, which is translated as rapture is used. Go read the context of those seven times that that word is used taken up.
[01:09:28] And also consider when you read the verses about two are in the field, one is taken up and one is left. Tour at the grinding mill. Once taken up, one is left.
[01:09:37] Consider. Just submit to you to consider. The one taken out is the evil one. The one that remains is the righteous one.
[01:09:46] As it was in the days of Noah. Who got taken out? The unrighteous, the evil.
[01:09:51] Who got left behind, the righteous.
[01:09:55] Who got taken out? Sodom and Gomorrah.
[01:09:58] Who got left behind?
[01:10:01] The righteous. The righteous were left behind, the wicked were removed.
[01:10:04] Guys, that's a huge shift. So if the end days is not the end of the world, it's the end of the times of that covenant.
[01:10:11] If this taken up, one gone, one left behind. If the left behind is actually the righteous.
[01:10:19] And this would line up with so many other scriptures. God so loved the world.
[01:10:24] Jesus came not to condemn the world, but to save it.
[01:10:28] Okay, I really do need to wrap this up. We're, we're over time.
[01:10:33] God wants this world ruled righteously. Heaven on earth.
[01:10:38] He chose a son, Adam. Adam separated through free will, choice. Jesus came to restore that which was lost and reconcile us back to the Father, back to the truth, back to a lens, a goggles, a kingdom perspective. So every day when you're talking to your wife, your kids, your co worker, you're looking at the news, which you shouldn't be because that television is programming you through channeling.
[01:11:00] It's the world and it's not the kingdom. Holy Spirit will tell you what's going on. You don't look at Fox News to tell you what's going on. The Holy Spirit leads you into truth. And when the sons of God walk in a mature state and bring the kingdom through their words and their vision and their thoughts. Guys, what you behold, you become. When you're beholding what the media is telling you all day long, it changes your DNA. It changes the structure of your water that your DNA floats in. It turns on the oncogenes, it shuts down the mitochondrial output. It shuts down, shuts you down. You vibrate at a different frequency when you behold what you become and you're beholding the world and the kingdom, king of this world, who is defeated by the way, until you believe his lie. Then he's undefeated and he's ruling your heart.
[01:11:40] That's when your heart condemns itself and it also it goes into fight or flight mode. And all those things I talked about earlier.
[01:11:47] As a man thinketh in his heart, so is he is true. What you behold, you become is true.
[01:11:53] The power of life and death in your tongue is true. All that's influenced by heart beliefs, which is goggles, which is everything I'm talking about. This is why we need to seek the kingdom first. God's original intent. He loves you. God is love. He loves the world. He made it perfectly. The enemy came in and tried to destroy it through unrighteous rule and self centeredness and pride is at the root of it. He brings religion into harness to to burden us with performance and change. Our vision and sight and understanding of who God is, who is love. It all gets messed up. And then these little tweaks in the scripture and these little translation changes.
[01:12:32] That's why we don't live by bread alone. But every word that proceeds from the mouth of God, we got to have the Holy Spirit goggles on when we're reading the scriptures. He's going to speak rhema word, spoken logos, word written. But he that's spoken word. What if you didn't even have the Bible? What if you're in some foreign country wherever Holy Spirit can speak to your heart. And that's how God wants it to be. That's how he wanted it to be. In the garden he was with Adam, walked with them every day. God showed up for the walk. Adam's the one who went and hid. God's there. He will never leave you, forsake you. He wants to be with you. He wants to love on you. He wants to tell you who you are. You're the apple of his eye. And he's the he chose you to redeem all of creation.
[01:13:10] And all of creation is waiting for the sons of God to stand up, rise up and see through Jesus's goggles. And it's Jesus in us actually who's doing that. We've got to die to ourself. That's body, soul, spirit. You have the mind of Christ. But be renewed by the transforming of your mind.
[01:13:26] Be transformed by the renewing of your mind. We have the two minds. We have our soul. We have our spirit. That was another huge one. Ecclesia orphan versus son.
[01:13:35] God's original intent.
[01:13:37] And then body, soul, spirit that leads to authority. Christ in us, the hope of glory.
[01:13:44] Guys, it just all comes together. I just want the body of Christ to see this. And I'm not condemning religion, but Kind of am.
[01:13:52] We have 40,000 denominations. That ain't it, guys. We're moving on. We're maturing up sonship. That was another one. There's maturation of sonship. There's infant son, adolescent son, fully mature son. When the fully mature sons of God are seeing the world and we're speaking, we're bringing the kingdom. So we're supposed to be taken back, I don't think, go into the world and take over government, medical. No, we're setting up a kingdom system. But the kingdom's not of this physical. It's a spiritual. But it'll manifest in the physical.
[01:14:21] And so we'll see the manifestation. I think that's where we're going. I think the world is being redeemed, reconciled back to God. All of creation's being redeemed. It's going to be awesome. He's chosen to do it through us. It's God in us. Nothing we can do except we need to submit to God. Resist the devil and he will flee. But it's all about submission to the truth. We got to see the truth. We got to know what the truth is.
[01:14:41] And I probably just need to do a part. Two, guys. But identity, identity, identity. Curry Blake's all about healing, but he said he loved to teach the New man series more than healing. New Man's all about the new creation we got to know. But about this new creation we got to know about seated in heavenly places. So watch Curry Blake's New Creation series.
[01:15:03] Watch Chris Blackaby's series on the three realms and sonship and all his.
[01:15:08] All these guests that I've had on all these years on sonship and identity, this is where it's at, guys. The body of Christ is finally stepping into kingdom identity. Getting God and self's identity cleared up next week. Don't want to offend you, but the spirit of patriotism needs to be identified and dealt with. Spirit of religion identified and dealt with. Orphan spirit identified and dealt with. And let the Holy Spirit of Truth write truth on your heart. That's it, guys. Love y'. All. See you next time. Bye. Bye.
